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Dual Boot vs. Virtual Box with Ubuntu

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: Dual Boot vs. Virtual Box with Ubuntu Reply with quote

I have a 2011 mini with 8 GB Ram. I'd like to have ubuntu on it also.
Clearly using Virtual Box to install Ubuntu as a virtual machine has
the 'virtue' of having access to both OSX 10.7 _and_ ubuntu.

Are there any downsides to using Virtual box as opposed to dual booting?

FYI: I would probably be using ubuntu most of the time even if I were
using the VirtualBox method.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BootCamp will give you the best overall performance, as it has total access to your system resources. I know VB is free, but I found that it really lags behind Fusion for Windows and Ubuntu. Most of the benchmarks that I have ever seen sort of prove that out. If you can splurge, you'll probably be happier with the overall experience. You should definitely try the trial to compare for yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would echo blazer's comments about using VMware Fusion over Virtualbox is you are going to use a virtual solution. Aside from speed, one of the best features of Fusion is the ability to move files between the virtual machine and the Mac by drag and drop across the desktop.

Whether a virtual solution is better than dual boot is a different question, and the answer depends of whether you would use the two OSes more or less independently, or simultaneously. If the former, you are better off with dual boot, as you will get better performance of Ubuntu that way than with a virtual machine. One other consideration is the hardware. Ubuntu is pretty good at detecting and running keyboards, networks, monitors, printers and cameras, but it sometimes has issues with trackpads. The virtual machine runs these peripherals through the Mac side, but this is not the case in dual boot. Always a good idea to check the Ubuntu forums for people's experience with the computer you want to run it in before plowing ahead.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses. Sounds like the only hardware issue on the dual-boot would be with trackpads and I don't use any on this setup. So do I understand that boot camp would be better than using rEFIt? If so, should I remove it? I already have rEFIt installed...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in order to remove refit you need to format the hard drive to restore it back to factory or the drive will just crash if you remove it because it mods the startup boot
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

macmanmacman wrote:
in order to remove refit you need to format the hard drive to restore it back to factory or the drive will just crash if you remove it because it mods the startup boot
I saw no reason to remove it. I proceeded with a successful install in the following manner.
1)Downloaded ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
2)
Code:
hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ubuntu-12.04_install.dmg ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64+mac.iso

to create a bootable image
see http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx - the iso was too big for the 700 Mb cds I had available
3)
Code:
dd if=ubuntu-12.04_install.dmg of=/dev/disk2 bs=1m

to place image on USB stick.
Using rEFIt booted and ran install. The only issue I ran into was that
in the
Quote:
Prepare To Install Ubuntu
window, I had to uncheck
Quote:
Download Updates While Installing
and
Quote:
Install this Third-Party Software
to keep the process from hanging

So now I have ubuntu and mac dual-booting.

On a related note, I have selected
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and I have the same global setting in my profile, as well as a legitimate email address, but I am not getting notified of replies to this topic.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could the "download updates while installing" problem be related to your not having a working internet connection until the installation was complete? I wonder whether it would have worked had you booted into the live-usb first.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly if you want a better linux experiance without flash player back doors getting your machine hacked i would recommend using linux mint it runs the same code as ubuntu but it uses html5 to run youtube and everything else instead of flash player.

the last version of flashplayer for ubuntu anyways is 9.0 adobe has announced they are no longer going to make flash for linux this is why you need html 5 which ubuntu hasn't learned yet
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notwithstanding the flash player issue, I would highly recommend that you upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, the newest long term support version. There are a lot of improvements under the hood in this new version.
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