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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:32 pm    Post subject: OLD Poster in NEED of some (Processor) HELP!!! Reply with quote

So, its been a while, Hi!!! everyone!!!
I've beeb planning on a project for a
long time now but health problems (and
other things) have conspired against me.
Well........let me just start, my current
Mac mini every month or so would FREEZE.
The curser could be moved around buy my
mouse (Track Ball, actually) but everything
else was frozen. I would need to pull
the plug from the wall (not really, I've put an
on/off switch on the power cord to make it
easier). Anyway, that could mean many
things. So I've been saving (which has been
easy because I don't go anywhere) for a new
more powerful mini.

I've recently bought said mini (the Apple Store
experience was a BIG disappointment, but I digress)
which means my newish old mini is ripe for Hacking!
I'm in the process of extending the SATA Cables
to an External Hard Drive Enclosure that will eventually
hold the BIGGEST SSD I can find (I mean afford)!
That'll be finished when said Hard Drives are purchased.

Thats NOT ENOUGH.....YOU KNOW ME!!!! To those
of you who don't know me let me say that I'm just
a little INSANE, just a little. Heres the plan for the
recently replaced mini:
1) Two External easily changeable Hard Drives
2) One External Optical Drive in the Hard Drive Enclosure
---------Heres the BIG one---------
3) Replace the Processor with the fastest one available

I know what your saying........"Balls" not "Pins"
makes it impossible to change the Processor. HA, HA, HA,
oh your wrong....."balls" makes it more difficult but not
impossible.

Because of my forced retirement I have a lot of time on
my hands and to occupy my time I've rekindled my hobby,
my love for electronic design and then building some of
the things that I've designed. Because of this hobby I've
become aware that Processors that are soldered in place
are un-solderable and a new faster processor can be soldered
in the originals place. Is this kind of risky? Yep! Should it be
done to your only Mac? Nope! I'm crazy, itchin' for a cool
project and searching for an appropriate Hot Plate to melt
off the soldered on processor so it can be replaced.

This is where y'all come in, I need some help on finding
the BEST likely candidate for a donor processor. I figure
the Fastest Dual-Core that was used in a recent or current
MacBook Pro would fit and work. It would be supported by
the OS's Firmware, Software and Kernel etc.

So, my question to y'all is.....what Processor do I buy?
What was the Fastest (Dual-Core) Processor used in a
MacBook Pro? Thats it....which one do I buy? Oh, yah,
where do I buy it?

If their are any well wishers, I apologize ahead of time
for not responding in a timely manner, I get very tired
quickly and often, THANKS!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question:

which model of mac mini.

the reason i ask this for is the 2011 through current have a soldered on processor non upgradable sorry also hope your brave enough to take one apart great just watch out for the hard drive heat sensor the cd drive heat sensor the processor heat sensor and the fan and wifi clips

congratulations on your new mini though
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

macmanmacman wrote:
Question:

which model of mac mini.

the reason i ask this for is the 2011 through current have a soldered on processor non upgradable sorry also hope your brave enough to take one apart great just watch out for the hard drive heat sensor the cd drive heat sensor the processor heat sensor and the fan and wifi clips

congratulations on your new mini though

Your funny Macman! I've had my 2011 Mac mini
2.7 GHz i7 Dual Core (see my sig.) apart several
times. Its completely apart right now. The first thing
I did was to change the LED color (white) to a prettier
Blue. I'm undecided as to where do I drill the two
holes to mount High Performance Antennas for
the WiFi card. It looks like their is only room sorta'
in the front half, which is where the Hard Drive use
to be. Since the HD will be external that location will
always be suitable.

It appears that you didn't read my post thoroughly.
I intend on removing the soldered on Processor and
solder on a new Faster Processor....got it? Not for
the faint of heart but....hey you only live once. The
worst thing that can happen is I destroy the mini along
with the new faster processor. Thats a chance I'm willing
to take. I'm shopping on-line for a suitable device to remove
the soldered on processor. That should cost a little over $100
and go up from their as they get fancier like better controlled
temperature of the heated plate along with maybe an external
heat gun for closer to $200. They can run several thousand
dollars for a production model. I'll try a simpler cheaper version
first.

Anyway, I NEED YOUR HELP, which Processor do I buy?
Where do I buy it from? Does Phil Acario still hang out
here? THANKS!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have a 2011 great!!!

Then somewhat easy and somewhat not so easy.

you would have to check around to find out what socket the processor is actually made for before you could desolder a processor unknown though what the max speed that machine could handle you could honestly try a 3.0 ghz i7 all though unknown if apple has a bios limitation in there that prevents such a modification.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Micro FCBGA is. It's a chip that has flat pads underneath.

which means most likely its not going to work there not pins like most processors.

here is a good link to get started

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=671437

this is talking about the core 2 duo mid 2011 mini basically the same design board wise just a difference processor power.

read page 2 on this theres 3 it goes into some good ideas
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject: Pins NOT Balls Reply with quote

Great link Macman, thank YOU! It kinda'
has rained on my parade. I see he didn't
go on and try, at least he didn't seem to
post anything. I need a little more research.

I still may try, I get board easy!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i honestly say this if you have the money and feel brave to try this try it worst thing that happens is you need a new computer but if you can afford a i7 processor at 500.00 you might just want to purchase a upgraded mac mini board with the right processor on it it could be cheaper
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject: Extra mini Reply with quote

The reason why I'm considering the Processor hack
is (like I've stated) I have replaced my mini with another.
I thought my older and now extra mini would be good
to experiment on. I don't mind destroying it if their is a
reasonable expectation of success.

If I can with good confidence find a faster Processor
that has worked on other Mac products then I would
try the hack.

Whats the fastest 2Core Processor that has been used in
a recent MacBook Pro? Thats what I need to find out. Not
being relatively certain is whats holding me back. Not the
hack!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Extra mini Reply with quote

billb wrote:
The reason why I'm considering the Processor hack
is (like I've stated) I have replaced my mini with another.
I thought my older and now extra mini would be good
to experiment on. I don't mind destroying it if their is a
reasonable expectation of success.

If I can with good confidence find a faster Processor
that has worked on other Mac products then I would
try the hack.

Whats the fastest 2Core Processor that has been used in
a recent MacBook Pro? Thats what I need to find out. Not
being relatively certain is whats holding me back. Not the
hack!



was thinking about you and smithhy from this site and decided to read up and see if you guys were around.

did you try to do this. my eyes are not so good anymore for fine work.

2x cataracts one in each eye. they put in implants and I see great far and great medium but so so for close.

wiki has the fastest cpu I will look it up maybe the i7 3520m

this is faster but it was not in a macbook pro

http://ark.intel.com/products/71255/Intel-Core-i7-3540M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re:Processor Hunt, Extra mini Reply with quote

philiparcario wrote:
was thinking about you and smithhy from this site and decided to read up and see if you guys were around.

did you try to do this. my eyes are not so good anymore for fine work.

2x cataracts one in each eye. they put in implants and I see great far and great medium but so so for close.

wiki has the fastest cpu I will look it up maybe the i7 3520m

this is faster but it was not in a macbook pro

http://ark.intel.com/products/71255/Intel-Core-i7-3540M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz



Hi Philip!!!!! Nice hearing from you again.
Just got out of the hospital after spending
the weekend their, my kidneys decided to
stop working and didn't ask me. Geeeez!!!

Anyway, The reason why I'm interested in
the fastest processor used by an Apple
product is because......the firmware...etc.
should work without any tweaks.....if their
Processor is supported by whatever model
of Mac then it leads to reason that it will
work in the Mac mini without a hiccup.

Sound reasonable? So the fastest processor
used in a Apple product and will fit the soldered
processor socket is what I'm looking for. Can
you help me identify "that" processor?

THANKS!!!!! Glad to see you well, errr, um, you
know what I mean!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your franken mini is a 2011?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: 2011 mini Reply with quote

philiparcario wrote:
your franken mini is a 2011?

See my Signature, YES 2011.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your expectations are not realistic considering the size of the components that you will be working with.

Unless you have access to stuff like rework stations that are designed for doing stuff like this.

SC

ps - Great to see ya Bill and Phil! Work has been crazy, so I don't know when I'll be back around! Sorry, but I really don't think this is something that can be done easily at home.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
I think your expectations are not realistic considering the size of the components that you will be working with.

Unless you have access to stuff like rework stations that are designed for doing stuff like this.

SC

ps - Great to see ya Bill and Phil! Work has been crazy, so I don't know when I'll be back around! Sorry, but I really don't think this is something that can be done easily at home.

Hi Smithy!!!!
Yes, I'm shopping for a Rework Station
to perform the deed with. I may destroy
the Logic Board and whatever Processor
I can find to work with. I don't know how
much longer I'll be around to annoy people
with my crazy hacks and I can't take it with
me, if you know what I'm saying, so.....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear ya!

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