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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: What a difference more memory makes Reply with quote

I just sold my 2009 Mac Mini Core 2 Duo with 8 GB memory and 120 GB SSD drive. I turned around and poured the proceeds into a 2011 i5 Mac Mini. I guess I had gotten spoiled by having the SSD drive and lots of memory, because when I got my new Mac Mini home I was very disappointed in its performance. The next day I went out and bought 8 GB memory to upgrade the RAM, and that made all the difference. While the drive is still slower than my SSD drive, the 4 CPU's make it much faster at things that don't depend on drive speed. I'll get a new SSD after this month, but I'm a lot happier with my new Mini now that I've upgraded the RAM.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Lion really does need 8GB of Ram. I have a 2.53GHz C2D mini with 4GB Ram running Lion and a 2.0Ghz iMac also with 4GB of ram running Snow Leopard. The iMac wipes the floor with the mini, its just so much faster at everything. Lion to me is just bloatware like vista was to windows Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cypher wrote:
I think Lion really does need 8GB of Ram. I have a 2.53GHz C2D mini with 4GB Ram running Lion and a 2.0Ghz iMac also with 4GB of ram running Snow Leopard. The iMac wipes the floor with the mini, its just so much faster at everything. Lion to me is just bloatware like vista was to windows Sad


What processor does the iMac have? I'm finding my 2.3ghz i5 to be blazingly faster than my 2.0ghz C2D.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both of mine are Core2Duo.

the 2.0GHz iMac should be slower than the Mac Mini but it blows it our of the water speed wise.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait mountain lion fixes a lot of those issues
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cypher wrote:
Lion to me is just bloatware like vista was to windows Sad


Agree big time - On my (late 09) iMac 27, I boot a 10.6.8 external system to use Freehand for my business. Everything is faster and more responsive. Lion is a nightmare of silly overhead for the so called 'Features' . Landau said it best - http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/discontent_with_lions_my_way_or_the_highway_approach/
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

macmanmacman wrote:
Just wait mountain lion fixes a lot of those issues

Hope that is from a voice with experience. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y-Guy wrote:
macmanmacman wrote:
Just wait mountain lion fixes a lot of those issues

Hope that is from a voice with experience. Very Happy


Whatever the case, I get a very strong impression Apple is dead set on everyone upgrading machines and going big on Ram just to keep performance to mid sys 10 levels. Case in point - the Macbook Pro Retina. Better get 16 G ram or forget running Adobe or any pro apps with any overhead, like Logic.

There's still a chance they'll bump the Mini and iMac one more time before they strip down to SSD only and on board memory (as in THEIR memory only) so hang out with your old system cause the hardware requirements are getting shorter and shorter with each system rev.

At least RAM is cheap. I remember guys back in the days of OS 7 - 8 spending several thousand on Ram alone. Now it's 100 to 200 to max out with chips that are 5X faster. Guess that's the good news Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, RAM makes a huge difference. Do you want to know what else does? Putting a SSD in your 2011 Mac mini. I just bought an 256GB Samsung 830 series SSD from Newegg and it's made even more of a difference. Applications almost open instantly and startup times are insanely fast. The upgrade didn't hit my wallet that hard either. I only paid $189 for the drive after getting $60 off with a promo discount. Which happens to end today, by the way. Get one if you can!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grasshopper wrote:
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I only paid $189 for the drive after getting $60 off with a promo discount. Which happens to end today, by the way. Get one if you can!
Item=N82E16820147164

Sadly, I didn't see your post until today (6/29). Yes, I had an OCZ Agility 3 in my 2009 mini, which I sold to buy the 2011 mini. Believe me, an SSD is on the to-do list!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Epilogue Reply with quote

As a final postscript to this discussion, I announce that I finally did replace the HD with an SSD. I found a great deal on an OCZ Agility 4 256gb SSD at Microcenter.com. They have a local store here in Kansas City, so I can get online prices without paying shipping. They had the drive on sale for 189.00, which I couldn't pass up.

Stats: Black Magic's Disk Speed Test reports writes in the 170-200mbs range and reads between 3-325. Compared to 75mbs for both read and write using the stock 5400rpm HD. The Agility 4 tops out around 400mbs for both r&w.

Now I've got a MUCH better mini! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Ram Reply with quote

Cypher wrote:
I think Lion really does need 8GB of Ram. I have a 2.53GHz C2D mini with 4GB Ram running Lion and a 2.0Ghz iMac also with 4GB of ram running Snow Leopard. The iMac wipes the floor with the mini, its just so much faster at everything. Lion to me is just bloatware like vista was to windows Sad
I have 2 gigs of ram with Lion and it seems fine to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Ram Reply with quote

Which is a better Ram to buy Corsair or Cruciable for the 2011 Mac Mini? Thanks Any responses to this? Question
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ram Reply with quote

marv777 wrote:
Which is a better Ram to buy Corsair or Cruciable for the 2011 Mac Mini? Thanks Any responses to this? Question


I also would like to know this.

OWC offers up to a 16 GB memory upgrade kit. Does anybody know which brand the memory is?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ram Reply with quote

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marv777 wrote:
Which is a better Ram to buy Corsair or Cruciable for the 2011 Mac Mini? Thanks Any responses to this? Question


I also would like to know this.

OWC offers up to a 16 GB memory upgrade kit. Does anybody know which brand the memory is?
Won't the company tell you this? Try Googling it perhaps.
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