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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggin the Quad Core Server version....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

g5g5 wrote:
No more optical drive? Shocked
I have to be honest here. I don't like that.
+1
Especially since it is impossible to find any external optical drive with a compatible footprint, so that both can be stacked elegantly.
No even at Apple !! Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Mac mini vs Mac mini Server Reply with quote

Mac mini Server
2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 with 6MB on-chip shared L3 cache
Intel HD Graphics 3000 processor with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
$1000

Mac mini
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 with 3MB on-chip shared L3 cache
AMD Radeon HD 6630M graphics processor with 256MB of GDDR5 memory
$800

A couple questions:
1) Is a 2.0 quad-core faster than a 2.5 dual-core?
2) Regarding gpus, is an Intel 3000 with 384mb shared as good as an AMD 6630M with 256mb not shared?
3) Would it not be better to buy the standard mini, add a hard drive, and Lion Server ($50)?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_029292_ wrote:

A couple questions:
1) Is a 2.0 quad-core faster than a 2.5 dual-core?
2) Regarding gpus, is an Intel 3000 with 384mb shared as good as an AMD 6630M with 256mb not shared?
3) Would it not be better to buy the standard mini, add a hard drive, and Lion Server ($50)?


1. Yes. And by a nice little percentage too.
2. No. It's probably better on battery life with a portable though.
3. If you're looking for a server, that's one way to get in on the cheap. Just remember that it only has 2GB of standard RAM and you'll have to upgrade the hard drives on your own. I would probably just go with the server model to be honest. You're getting Lion server, 4GB of RAM, dual 7200RPM drives and the quad-core i7. If you do the math, that's probably a better bargain, even though the barrier to entry is higher.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. No. It's probably better on battery life with a portable though..

I don't know a lot about running servers, but the Intel graphics may also make those models more energy efficient. That might be an important factor if you're using a couple servers or looking to save money. It just doesn't seem like you would need the Radeon graphics for that type of application. We'll, unless you're gaming at the same time. Then by all means...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Would either Intel or AMD graphics work with RemoteFX? Reply with quote

Would either Intel or AMD graphics work with RemoteFX, where the Mac mini was the server running Windows 7 SP1 or Server 2008 R2 SP1?
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost great!

I wonder what flavor of Koolaid they are drinking in Cupertino?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
Almost great!

I wonder what flavor of Koolaid they are drinking in Cupertino?

SC

What would make it great SC?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How will the mini model with lower processor but dedicated video card compares with the higher server processor but integrated card? Am I correct in guessing that the 2.5GHz will be faster than the 2.0GHz quad-core in graphic related aspects? Which one would you personally recommend? I am thinking on getting this or spend it on a hackintosh.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope someone comes with with an optical drive dock for this and quick. Preferably Blu-Ray. Then I'll be upgrading. I think Apple is betting on the notion all software will now be installed via the App store and utilize Flash drives for saving to external media.

It's not a surprise I remember the original Bondi Blue iMac the first computer to eliminate the floppy drive. People were having a fit over that too saying it was too soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-1 on the optical drive. I won't miss it one bit. The mini looks much nicer now. The superdrive is an option if you need one. I'd rather see the lower price.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curt wrote:
Smithcraft wrote:
Almost great!

I wonder what flavor of Koolaid they are drinking in Cupertino?

SC

What would make it great SC?


I want the power brick back. the power brick is 110 watts and external the internal psu is 85 watts and hotter. you need to plug a cord into the 2011 mini to run it so stick a brick on the cord.

this allows a quad and a gpu not a quad or a gpu.


the quad in the server is 45 watts the gpu in the maxed mini is 15 watts that is 60 out of 85 watts. not enough head room. this is a very simple problem to fix.


http://ark.intel.com/products/52219/Intel-Core-i7-2630QM-Processor-(6M-Cache-2_00-GHz)


this is the cpu in the server (i think)

with the brick they may be able to use this


http://ark.intel.com/products/52227/Intel-Core-i7-2820QM-Processor-(8M-Cache-2_30-GHz)

or this

http://ark.intel.com/products/50067/Intel-Core-i7-2720QM-Processor-(6M-Cache-2_20-GHz)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still like burning music to CD and watching DVDs. That being said, you can do just the same with an external. So I don't see it as being a deal breaker. I am rather impressed with the new specs though. No doubt, these are the best Mac minis ever to come off the assembly line.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MartinHoracio wrote:
How will the mini model with lower processor but dedicated video card compares with the higher server processor but integrated card? Am I correct in guessing that the 2.5GHz will be faster than the 2.0GHz quad-core in graphic related aspects? Which one would you personally recommend? I am thinking on getting this or spend it on a hackintosh.

Haven't seen any benchmarks, but I'm betting the 2.5GHz Mac mini with AMD outdoes the Mac minis with Intel graphics. I mean, when it comes to gaming and stuff. I would probably go with the i7 processor though. You get another 1MB of L3 cache on top of the faster clock speed and better hyper-threading, which basically gives you four virtual cores. So I'm thinking the i7-based Mac mini with AMD for $899 is probably the best all around performer. JMHO
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite sad that the disc drive is gone, since I needed it for a mediacenter. Ordered the bottom end 2011 model anyway though, and a Macbook Air Superdrive to go with it.

So, now to find out if I can mod a bluray into it, or if I need an external one..
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