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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: New Display / Dell Ultrasharp U2311 Reply with quote

Maybe, maybe not.

All of the sudden, I don't have a display on the desktop mini. I'm not sure if it's the display or the mini, but hopefully a trip to the local Apple store will straighten that out.

So, if it's the display that's died, what all do you guys currently recommend? If no positive recommendation, then who should I avoid?

I would like dual DVI, or at least a DVI and a VGA. I would also like to rotate to display, but that's not a necessary feature.

So many choices, and couch surfing sucks.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: New Display... Reply with quote

Hi Smithcraft,

This really depends on what you want from your monitor.

1. What sort of price are you willing to spend?

2. What size monitor are you looking for?

3. How important is the display panel quality to you? Would you want an IPS panel, or would TN be good enough for you? IPS is high-end but most costly, while TN is the cheap panel that most everyone buys.

4. Do you want the newest LED backlighting or are you satisfied with the current backlighting used with older monitors? The current backlit monitors fade over time and require you to increase the brightness over the years. LED is instant-on and uses less energy.

5. Do you want a matte display (non-reflective) or a glossy monitor, or do you not have a preference?

Without knowing those particular details, I personally would only buy a monitor with an IPS panel. They cost more but look much better. I don't care too much about LED technology.

Taking my personal preferences into consideration, I can recommend three vendors: Apple, HP and Dell. If you don't mind the glass cover and the higher price, then an Apple monitor is the highest quality. The selection is, of course, very limited, given that the new 27-inch model is soon to be the only new model that Apple sells, as well as the refurbs of older models. HP has some particularly nice monitors, that offer a decent variety, some of which are particularly suited for photography. Dell has an excellent selection of IPS monitors and regularly has sales that beat just about everyone else on the market.

If I were going to buy a monitor today, then I'd be looking at one of the sales of the Dell UltraSharp IPS monitors. The U2211H and U2311H can be had for great prices, if you catch one of Dell's sales, which happen from time to time. The main differences between the two are that one is a 21.5-inch screen, while the other is a 23-inch. This is the most current sale, as of this post:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2236715

(Note: using the link above, SlickDeals gets a cut of what Dell gets from your purchase. I just search on Dell's site and use the coupon directly. I don't like having a third-party involved when making a purchase.)

You can see the specs of both monitors in the second post.

I'm not much help if you're just looking for a basic monitor, using a TN panel. I think people often think of output and input devices as an afterthought. The monitor is probably the piece of equipment that people use more than any other. A lot of folks look at the size of the monitor, without knowing much about the details. That's how we end up with these great "deals" on large-ish monitors. An IPS monitor costs more than a cheap TN, but your eyes will thank you. Apple only uses IPS monitors, because of the quality of those panels.

I've been using a Dell 2005FPW for about five years now, with my Mac mini. I think it's the best monitor ever made and have never regretted the purchase.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116409


This viewsonic has good dot pitch. I owned a 19 inch it was good. looks like it the same mounting as my 19 inch.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll give those a look see.

Colstan, I've usually been lucky with getting great displays. I have friends that work in graphics and they always liked my old Seiko. The only problem with the Xerox, other than I think it might be dead, is that it was slightly pink. However, Colorsync took care of that.

It's true that most people don't think about the quality of what they look at all day. If I get a Dell, I'll have to use some electrical tape to cover up the Dell logo! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
If I get a Dell, I'll have to use some electrical tape to cover up the Dell logo! Laughing SC
LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL!!!!!!
Now Sc, you hurt Michael Dell's feelings.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

philiparcario wrote:
This viewsonic has good dot pitch.


Interesting. I didn't know anybody discussed dot pitch since CRT days. I wouldn't have even considered this spec on an LCD.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I did the obvious and hooked up the G4 to the teevee, and it's putting out a video signal, so at least I don't have to get a new mini!

However, the display now won't even power up, so it's deffo gone belly up.

Looks like I'm headed to Costco and Frys in the morning, then back home to look up the specs and then back out to buy. Plus all the other stuff, I get to do just because tomorrow is a special day.

I think I'm gonna end up with a Samsung. Which certainly isn't bad, but with out retail competition, well, we'll see what happens.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
I think I'm gonna end up with a Samsung. Which certainly isn't bad


I like Samsung. We all know that there are only a few companies that actually make displays, so it's really not that big of a deal what brand you get as long as it's a quality product.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Samsung currently, Viewsonic before that. Both purchased at Costco. Extra year extended warranty via Costco, bought with Amex which expanded it another year to three total. I like some of the high-end Dells, Eizo's are great as well WAYYYY out of my budget though.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be nice when Macs become popular enough for Costco to start carrying them. Hopefully Apple displays some day as well. Likely they would just carry iMacs and perhaps Mac minis.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh...

I didn't really care for any of the displays that I looked at today.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit Bill wrote:
It will be nice when Macs become popular enough for Costco to start carrying them. Hopefully Apple displays some day as well. Likely they would just carry iMacs and perhaps Mac minis.


I think Apple only has two displays right now, and the're both really expensive. I'd love to see Macs at Costco again, though.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a Staples (office store) ? Every now and then they have some random deals. Might be worth a check.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is one near by.

I was looking at the Dell Ultrasharps, and I see that the 2211 isn't too expensive, and there is a 25% coupon available, so I think I might go with that one, or the 2311 which also has the coupon.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dell U2311H looks like a nice monitor with good reviews. Probably one of the cheaper and decent IPS panels you can buy.

I hate monitor shopping. You always want to second guess if you made the right choice. Confused
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