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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Lion Won't Work For Me Reply with quote

I saw the newest features of Lion today and it does seem like an upgrade that I would like. Unfortunately for me I can't have it. Already Snow Leopard utilizes the newest track pad with gestures. Lion adds even more. My Apple computer is a 2008 OS X 10.5.8 Mac Book that doesn't have the better track pad like the aluminum Mac Books do since 2009.

In a way I'm glad about my situation. At least Ive got a functioning computer that doesn't have software problems. I'm also glad about my battery being removable because I'm on my second defective Apple battery. Were this inside the aluminum version the machine would need to be disassembled in order to get to it. The back panel of the aluminum model would be bulging out thus requiring a full replacement.

Do these new features make you want to upgrade your machine from Tiger or Leopard?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, the way Lion is going to be sold is the worst iDea I have ever heard of.

If you want to do a clean install, you have to install 10.6.x.
Then update to get to the App Store.
Then buy the four gig 'update.' Whether this 'update' is keyed to your store account remains to be seen.
If you are using Server, you have to do the above, then you get to purchase and download the Server update!

What rocket surgeon came up with this? Rolling Eyes

I feel for people that are on dial up, slow, or poor internet connections!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:20 pm    Post subject: Will Lion SUCK???? Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
The worst iDea I have ever heard of Laughing Laughing
What rocket surgeon came up with this? Rolling Eyes

Yah SC, it looks like my worst nightmares may come to pass.

I now have the money for a Mac Pro 3.33 Hex Core.
I think I'm going to hold off and wait for lion to expose
itself fully, at least before I drop over 3 Large on a Pro.

It looks like a 2011 mini with that new LightWhatever
connection may be in order.........or not. This is really
beginin' to suck.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too realized that I would need to purchase Snow Leopard first and then get Lion.

The feature that makes me want to get Lion is the iCloud integration with the iLife suite of programs.

The more time I spend watching Apple present its computer products the more I feel the Mac line is more geared for entertainment than anything else. I've never seen a presentation that demonstrated some advanced engineering software being utilized or an advanced graphics program.

The iWork suite really doesn't need to be upgraded at all. Once one can do good formatting with a large selection of fonts that's about all that is needed. Moving photos around in Keynote and adding video clips is really cool but really how much more is needed in that one. I don't use Numbers but some people claim it isn't as good as Excel. Maybe it needs some improvement.

Still, all of those programs could run on ten year old machines and still do great work. Are computers getting faster processors mainly because people need them to watch streaming videos with better quality via the internet?

Voice recognition and control will require intense programming and processing. When it arrives we'll be able to browse the web and watch movies with voice control instead of using a Magic Trackpad. Laughing Voice dictation already is here. It shouldn't be too long before voice commands arrive, right?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am of the opinion that we are getting faster computers so that we can have pretty operating systems.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wondered what Johnny Cash would have thought, and had a bout of inspiration...



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So does this mean if you have four Apple computers you have to download 4gb Lion 4 times? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So does this mean if you have four Apple computers you have to download 4gb Lion 4 times? Evil or Very Mad


Unless I'm missing something here, I think you are going to be able to burn the file to a DVD and install from that. So you could install it on the rest of your computers from the DVD. Maybe I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
So does this mean if you have four Apple computers you have to download 4gb Lion 4 times? Evil or Very Mad


http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
To me, the way Lion is going to be sold is the worst iDea I have ever heard of.

If you want to do a clean install, you have to install 10.6.x.
Then update to get to the App Store.
Then buy the four gig 'update.' Whether this 'update' is keyed to your store account remains to be seen.


Found this. Looks promising. http://eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

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Fox wrote:
So does this mean if you have four Apple computers you have to download 4gb Lion 4 times? Evil or Very Mad


http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/


Sorry. Didn't see your post.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can put it on a DVD. It's just a .dmg file. Before Installing Asks you what drive you want to install it on. Then it Restarts the Mac & Installs. It's actually simpler than a DVD. And You can do a clean install. As far as the updates go, I'm not sure, but I don't think Apple will charge additionally for Updates. If they did that with all their apps, no one would buy them in the 1st place.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But will it run on a Core Duo proccesor? I suppose I could just run it on my Macbook Pro, but then I'm running three diffrent versions OS X.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe a Core 2 Duo is a requirement. I would imagine that since it's a download you could edit the install check before you install.

I wouldn't expect Apple to support that though...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithcraft wrote:
I believe a Core 2 Duo is a requirement. I would imagine that since it's a download you could edit the install check before you install.

I wouldn't expect Apple to support that though...

SC


It looks like we will need Cray's pretty soon just to run OSX. Sorry for the sour grapes, I guess that's progress for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it depends on how you look at it.

Apple is known for rigging software to machines for a while now and you may find they may just decide to ditch applications for 10.6 eventually but not right away.

i have played around with the developer's preview at my friends house what can i say.

it's snow leopard with gestures and rosetta removed thats it.
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