MacPro on order

[philiparcario]

2.8 quad with better gpu should arrive the 9th to 15th. with no deals it is 2700 plus 7 percent tax or 2889. I paid about 2500 with discounts. should score 10000 on geek bench vs 4700 for the maxed mini
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[philiparcario]

Look at classifieds i will be selling some gear to pay for it. maybe a modded esata mac mini . a lot of enclosures and hdds at low prices.
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[philiparcario]

I got shipping notice the macPro arrives on FRI the 10th. A few years ago I used to be able to present an argument that for many buyers 3 minis were better then a macpro. It is buried in the threads somewhere. at the time 3 minis were 1500 adding ram and decent hdds got you to about 1800. A mac pro with some upgrades was about 2700 so there was a 900 dollar price difference. For many tasks 3 minis were better suited then 1 MP. well now 3 base minis are 2100 add ram 2400 and better the hdds 2700.

1 base macpro with the better gpu and a little bit of extra ram is about 2850. . the mini as a bargain has died. too bad.
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[Bandit Bill]

[billb]

[philiparcario]

I DID the same thing with the iMac.. Top of the line graphic cards allow better tv and movie options. Also The price is good to upgrade it. only 175 more then the oem card. I won't be able to get it for 175 for more then a year or so.

In a year the price will drop on both the 5770 and the 5870 and I could have sold the 5770 and upgrade to the 5870 for 175 or so. Instead for paying the 175 now in a year I can sell the 5870 and upgrade to whatever they have.
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[Smithcraft]

There are numerous factors to consider when buying a computer.

I wouldn't mind a MacPro, but I really don't need one. I don't need that behemoth on my desk, and I don't need it's power consumption.

I have a nice display, so I don't need an iMac. I also am not really down with the all-in-one design.

I'm not a road warrior so I have no need for a laptop.

For me the mini is perfect. Power consumption, feature set, and size are all benefits to me.

Whether I could by this or five that's for any certain amount isn't what I look at. Distributed processing isn't supported by many applications so that's really a killer for buying so five that's instead of one of this to do what I need.

But, to each his own. I'm sure Philip will love his MacPro!

SC
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Grumpy old man of computing.

[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8

[Media System] Intel i5 mini - 2.33Ghz 8GB 500GB HDD - 4 x Hitachi 2TB HDD in a qBOX-SF - 10.7.5 (Thanks Phil!)

Make sure it has pins!

[philiparcario]

one thing is for sure the pro allows tinkering. the iMAc and the mini just kept becoming more and more like a black box of magic. or a shiny silver box! Look at the atv it is so small and cute looking!
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[billb]

Smithy.........your making to much sense!!!
Your making me rethink my MacPro strategy.
Just because you don't NEED something
doesn't mean it can't be extremely useful.
However, if I buy the most expensive Porsche
and its only to get groceries, well, you know.

I use to have a pickup truck when I hunted
and fished. Now that I can no longer do
those activities I sold the truck. I rarely
miss it.

Buying a Porsche to drive around the block
doesn't make sense and a Mac Pro might
not make any sense either. I have to think
about this some more.
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2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 with
16GB RAM, Samsung 512GB SSD
MacBook AIR 11 Inch
Mac mini, Model 1.1, 2.33 GHz C2D Proc
20" iMac G4 PPC

[ez061111]

[Smithcraft]

Billb - Does that mean I need to wear an oversized suit? Oh, and if you can use a Porsche as a grocery getter, more power to you!

I don't really see what tinkering you can do with the MacPro. Sure it has slots, but what can you do with them these days? Drivers are hard to comeby. You might be able to upgrade the CPU(s) but that can be an expensive affair.

Again, to each their own. If a Pro is what you need then go for it! However, I think that most of us are in need of something along the lines of a consumer computer. If you need a screen, get an iMac, and if you don't get a mini.

I was talking to a friend of mine about what I see as missing in the Apple product matrix(the replacement for the Cube/Minitower Mac), and he said that he thought that the product matrix was perfect and there was no need for anything in between the iMac and the Pro. I have a need for a computer that can cut through video for transcoding for my media system, so I built a mini tower peecee. I hope to Hackintosh it soon, 'cuz I'm getting really tired of Win7. But I don't think I need a full on Mac Pro. I just need an upgradeable Mac.

SC

ps - Remembering that I spent more for my IIci than for what a Mac Pro goes for brings back some nostalgia...
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Grumpy old man of computing.

[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8

[Media System] Intel i5 mini - 2.33Ghz 8GB 500GB HDD - 4 x Hitachi 2TB HDD in a qBOX-SF - 10.7.5 (Thanks Phil!)

Make sure it has pins!

[philiparcario]

I don't need the mac pro butttt they don't make a mac midi which is what I need. I figure the pro will be good for more then 5 years before I outgrow it. With a cpu upgrade in 3 yrs I may get more like 8 or 9 years out of it. I have the quad 2.8 a quad 3.7 may be out next spring. when and if it comes out I will clock the price and drop it in when it is worth it. The mini's problem is the cpu seems stuck at the current speed for a while. 2.66ghz
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

[billb]

[Smithcraft]

It sure does sound insane when I think about what we used to spend on computer stuff twenty to ten years ago...

SC
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Grumpy old man of computing.

[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8

[Media System] Intel i5 mini - 2.33Ghz 8GB 500GB HDD - 4 x Hitachi 2TB HDD in a qBOX-SF - 10.7.5 (Thanks Phil!)

Make sure it has pins!

[tom d]

I saw a new Mac Pro at the Annapolis Mall at the Apple Store while my wife was shopping. I asked the Genius if they sell many and he said quite a few, he said it wasn't a moders Dream because so much was already done for you. He then took off the side cover and said, I believe, there are 2 exons in there, feel the case were they are housed. There was no heat, it was as cool as can be and a huge amount of room for drives or what ever. I figured Phil will be able to fill that guy up and make it sing!!

tom d