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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I use a USB Drive for Super Duper? Or will the Mac only boot up to Firewire?


People have booted off of USB drives. But let's back up a bit. What are you trying to do?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I want it to do, is if for some reason my Mac won't boot, I could boot from the Super Duper Hard Drive? And it will have all my Programs, Preferences, Setting & files from my Internal Hard Drive.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dino for emergency back up you can have these 2 pieces cost is under 100.


http://www.thermaltakestore.com/blacx-n0020028.html


and a hdd like this

http://www.jr.com/western-digital/pe/WD_WD5000KSRTL/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All I want it to do, is if for some reason my Mac won't boot, I could boot from the Super Duper Hard Drive? And it will have all my Programs, Preferences, Setting & files from my Internal Hard Drive.


Okay. Then basically just keeps SuperDuper as an application on your main drive. When you clone your main drive, all your data plus that app. (SuperDuper) will be cloned over to the back-up drive.

If your main drive ever gives you grief, all you have to do is reboot, hold the option key, select the back up drive and you are up and running.

If needed you can then clone the back-up drive back over-top of the main drive.

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phillip, Thanks but I don't need anything special. I only keep about 20 GB's of Info on my Internal HD. They are just my Programs, Settings the OS. My Data, I'm not worried about. I have that all backed up on several external HD's & DVD's. So I'm looking for a Free little program that would boot on an External USB, when & in Case my Internal iMac HD refuses to boot. Hopefully, after I get it fixed that will never happen again. But I'm thinking better Safe than Sorry. Smile Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit, How does the Mac know to boot to that USB Hard Drive? Just since Super Duper is on it & Installed on the Internal HD? Just curious.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased 10 of the thermal takes I have 2 refurbs not opened. I can send you one with a hdd that has imac osx loaded and superduper loaded. just plug it into your usb jack in the back and plug in the power wart to the wall.




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If it is too big I have a boatload of portable 2.5 inch usb drives. I can send one loaded with imac osx. and superduper. they only need to use the usb jack to work.


I have like 4 of these. with 120gb or 160gb or 320gb or 500gb your choice.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822151033&cm_re=dane-elec-_-22-151-033-_-Product


I know you have the osx so I am loading the same osx as yours from my imac discs.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phillip, Once again, thanks for the offer. But that would take all the fun away for me. I want to learn to do this on my own & feel a sense of accomplishment. I'm all about the Learning HOW! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bandit, How does the Mac know to boot to that USB Hard Drive? Just since Super Duper is on it & Installed on the Internal HD? Just curious.




When you reboot the computer, as soon as you hear the start-up chime, you press and hold the option key. All of your bootable drives will then appear (assuming they are connected and powered up).

Select the drive you want to boot into and away you go.

You'll notice that not only do I have a clone of my internal hard drive, I have a clean version of OS X on another drive. This makes trouble shooting even easier. I know for sure that if I am having issue with the clean version of OS X then likely I have a hardware issue.


p.s Dino, I have to run. I'll be gone for a few hours. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just in the process of reinstalling a fresh install of Snow Leopard and then I'll be creating a new bootable backup onto an external firewire drive.

In answer to your question about SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner I've only used CCC before but it was really easy to use and it created working bootable backups of system. CCC is also donationware so it doesn't cost anything to try it.

I've used CCC in the past to create backups of my Tiger install prior to updating to Leopard, and similarly a bootable backup of my Leopard install prior to upgrading to Snow Leopard. I also had a working backup of my Snow Leopard install but stupidly I updated it shortly after installing 10.6.3 just before my crashing problems started, so I don't really want to restore that one now. Hence the clean install

I also think now is the right time to have a fresh start (with finishing uni) so I will be reformatting and reinstalling a fresh copy of snow leopard which I'll update to 10.6.2 (I'm avoiding going to 10.6.3 at the moment). Once its setup I'll install all of my main applications, and letting go all of the apps I've found I seldom use. This is partly the reason I don't want to restore an old backup.

Once thats all completed I'll use Carbon Copy Cloner to create a new image of the iMac's freshly installed OS to the external firewire drive that currently has the 10.6.3 backup on.

Once the backup and the newly restored system have been tested for stability, I'll then think about trying the 10.6.3 update on my iMac again.


BTW Dino, I also have a similar unit to the ones Philip mentioned, mines a quad interface Newertech Voyager Q and its a brilliant unit. I have several 3.5" Sata drives which I can just plug into the unit which makes it very flexible for backups. You can buy cheaper bare drives this way and quickly swap the one in use.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some great information guys! Thanks. Bandit, I notice your Drives are Firewire. I only have USB drives. So I could use a USB & it would show up & work the same? Only reason I ask is, I read somewhere that a Mac won't Boot to a USB Hard Drive.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, I'm not doing this now. The iMac is still in the Shop.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dino1956 wrote:
Only reason I ask is, I read somewhere that a Mac won't Boot to a USB Hard Drive.


All the newer Intel Macs will boot from a USB drive, the earlier PPC Macs could not, at least without some geeky hacking.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb, Thanks! Perfect!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question # 1001! Smile
How can people be Selling Apple Care on eBay (for the iMac) for $69.?
I know there are a lot of Scams out there. But some look Legit.
How is someone able to buy an Apple Warranty Plan for less than half the Normal Price?
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