upgrade results for a 2.26 with 4 gb ram and a scorpio black

philiparcario

okay I finished a boat load of tests with a new mini 2.26 4gb owc memory and a scorpio black 250gb 7200rpm hdd. more to follow this is 4gb owc installed with the

oem hitachi 120hdd with 5400 rpm ........................................................................ This is the same mini with the wd 250 scorpio black 7200rpm hdd

Results 131.96................................................................................................................ Results 145.51
System Info ..................................................................................................................System Info
Xbench Version 1.3........................................................................................................ Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)................................................................................... System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)
Physical RAM 4096 MB.................................................................................................... Physical RAM 4096 MB
Model Macmini3,1............................................................................................................ Model Macmini3,1
Drive Type FUJITSU MHZ2120BH G1................................................................................. Drive Type WDC WD2500BEKT-00F3T0
CPU Test 145.61............................................................................................................. CPU Test 140.35
GCD Loop 251.49 13.26 Mops/sec.................................................................................. GCD Loop 237.90 12.54 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 126.85 3.01 Gﬂop/sec.................................................................... Floating Point Basic 119.28 2.83 Gﬂop/sec
vecLib FFT 97.41 3.21 Gﬂop/sec.................................................................................. vecLib FFT 99.76 3.29 Gﬂop/sec
Floating Point Library 187.06 32.57 Mops/sec............................................................... Floating Point Library 169.77 29.56 Mops/sec
Thread Test 301.37...................................................................................................... Thread Test 239.62
Computation 381.44 7.73 Mops/sec, 4 threads............................................................. Computation 404.51 8.19 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 249.08 10.72 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads .......................................................Lock Contention 170.23 7.32 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 180.17....................................................................................................... Memory Test 170.45
System 201.90 ...............................................................................................................System 182.29

Allocate 257.69 946.32 Kalloc/sec......................................................................................Allocate 166.97 613.15 Kalloc/sec

Fill 166.41 8091.00 MB/sec........................................................................................ Fill 174.31 8475.39 MB/sec
Copy 201.25 4156.68 MB/sec ......................................................................................Copy 211.38 4365.89 MB/sec
Stream 162.67............................................................................................................. Stream 160.06
Copy 154.85 3198.40 MB/sec...................................................................................... Copy 153.87 3178.10 MB/sec

Scale 153.46 3170.52 MB/sec........................................................................................ Scale 151.99 3140.04 MB/sec
Add 172.75 3679.89 MB/sec ........................................................................................Add 168.02 3579.14 MB/sec
Triad 171.61 3671.10 MB/sec....................................................................................... Triad 167.77 3589.09 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 191.50........................................................................................ Quartz Graphics Test 195.39
Line 157.00 10.45 Klines/sec [50% alpha]................................................................... Line 156.39 10.41 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 194.84 58.17 Krects/sec [50% alpha]............................................................ Rectangle 199.48 59.56 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 160.66 13.10 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] ................................................................Circle 161.52 13.17 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 162.35 4.09 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]................................................................ Bezier 159.88 4.03 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 449.82 28.14 Kchars/sec .......................................................................................Text 575.96 36.03 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 133.14........................................................................................ OpenGL Graphics Test 136.41
Spinning Spinning Squares 133.14 168.90 frames/sec ..................................................Spinning Squares 136.41 173.05 frames/sec
User Interface Test 308.40.......................................................................................... User Interface Test 307.40
Elements 308.40 1.42 Krefresh/sec......................................................................... Elements 307.40 1.41 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 46.87........................................................................................................ Disk Test 65.62
Sequential 67.38..................................................................................................... Sequential 96.95
Uncached Write 90.03 55.28 MB/sec [4K blocks]..................................................... Uncached Write 110.63 67.93 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 90.27 51.07 MB/sec [256K blocks] ................................................Uncached Write 105.61 59.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 35.73 10.46 MB/sec [4K blocks].................................................... Uncached Read 64.84 18.97 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 108.75 54.66 MB/sec [256K blocks] .............................................Uncached Read 136.50 68.61 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 35.93 ....................................................................................................Random 49.59
Uncached Write 13.02 1.38 MB/sec [4K blocks] .................................................. Uncached Write 17.75 1.88 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 91.80 29.39 MB/sec [256K blocks] ..............................................Uncached Write 154.25 49.38 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.65 0.49 MB/sec [4K blocks] .....................................................Uncached Read 90.56 0.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 110.24 20.46 MB/sec [256K blocks] .............................................Uncached Read 146.96 27.27 MB/sec [256K blocks]

The scorpio black 250gb hdd really wins out over the oem hitachi. The kramer 800 fire wire hub running to a pair of sans digital external enclosures allowed a click and drag copy of a 180gb itunes file in 74 minutes that would be a 1tb in 6 hours fast. daisy chain the pair of sans digital external enclosures was the same speed for the same itunes file. 74minutes. I have a new lacie will test tue
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2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

Fox · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject:

That's a nice speed increase with the 7200rpm WD. You can really see the difference in the disk-related operations. Not that I'm surprised; my first HD upgrade from the stock 80gb 5400rpm Hitachi to a 120gb 7200rpm Seagate gave a noticeable speed increase in program startup, opening folders, copying, etc. It's not the Hitachi brand - their 7200rpm drives are fast, too - it's going to a faster spinning drive, higher density platters and a less filled up drive.
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CaliforniaMini · Veteran Member Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 858

It would be interesting to see a 2.0vs2.26 Mini both with the 7200 drive. I'm wondering if that processor upgrade makes that much of a difference...I'm thinking not.
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philiparcario · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:18 am Post subject:

It makes a big difference if you use handbrake to encode. for a lot of jobs it is not a big deal
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2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

philiparcario · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:40 am Post subject:

i tested a lacie 800 firewire 2.5 inch enclosure with the kramer fire wire hub and 1 sans digital enclosure. the same 180 click and drag copy took 120 minutes not 74.
still better then using firewire 400 but not as fast as the sans digital to sans digital click and drag of 74 minutes translates to 10 hours for a 1tb click and drag vs 6 hours for the sans digital to sans digital. click and drag.

this is the slower lacie 26mbs write time with fire wire 800

http://www.jr.com/lacie/pe/LAC_301310/

the faster sans digital 40mbs write time with firewire 800

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822110002

the kramer unit seems to allow the same speed as daisy chain of the sans digital units so it doe not slow down that fast 40mbs write time for a click and drag copy..

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/431602-REG/Comprehensive_Kramer_VS_30FW_VS30FW_3_Port_FireWire_800_Repeater_Hub.html

when I did tests like this with seagate free agent the write time was 20mbs for usb

with thermaltake the write time was 20mbs for usb
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

Night_Sailor · Member Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 59

As future patches come out Philup, keep checking your XBench scores. I expect they will jump up some.
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TonyMontana · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:37 am Post subject:

My 2009 2.0Ghz 4Gb/320Gb 7200RPM got only a 119. With a fresh, zeroed out install. I couldn't get anywhere near the 140's like most with the same config. I tried all the tricks, fresh boot, updates, kill processes, no apps running...ect. Either I got some slow Crucial RAM or the Hitachi HD is slow. The Hitachi is DEAD quiet though which really made me happy.
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philiparcario · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:

the hitachi 320gb 7200rpm runs slower then the western digital 250gb 7200rpm ,but it is dead quiet.
it is a reliable drive and it is faster then the oem stock drives.

this a 2.0 with 4gb and a hitachi 320gb 7200rpm travelstar.....................................this is a 2.0 cpu with 4 gb and a 500gb western digital 5400rpm scorpio blue

Results 125.91................................................................................................................... Results 137.23
System Info......................................................................................................................... System Info
Xbench Version 1.3............................................................................................................... Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)........................................................................................... System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)
Physical RAM 4096 MB........................................................................................................... Physical RAM 4096 MB
Model Macmini3,1.................................................................................................................. Model Macmini3,1
Drive Type Hitachi HTS723232L9A360.................................................................................... Drive Type WDC WD5000BEVT-75ZAT0
CPU Test 130.33 ....................................................................................................................CPU Test 133.33
GCD Loop 226.26 11.93 Mops/sec ........................................................................................GCD Loop 233.61 12.31 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 110.17 2.62 Gﬂop/sec ............................................................................Floating Point Basic 109.60 2.60 Gﬂop/sec
vecLib FFT 90.76 2.99 Gﬂop/sec......................................................................................... vecLib FFT 94.03 3.10 Gﬂop/sec
Floating Point Library 161.93 28.20 Mops/sec ....................................................................Floating Point Library 167.74 29.21 Mops/sec
Thread Test 224.87 ...........................................................................................................Thread Test 222.35
Computation 381.88 7.74 Mops/sec, 4 threads.................................................................... Computation 329.48 6.67 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 159.35 6.86 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads........................................................... Lock Contention 167.79 7.22 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 174.36 ..........................................................................................................Memory Test 166.77
System 194.83................................................................................................................. System 180.30
Allocate 244.50 897.87 Kalloc/sec....................................................................................... Allocate 236.01 866.71 Kalloc/sec
Fill 162.13 7883.08 MB/sec ...............................................................................................Fill 153.36 7456.89 MB/sec
Copy 194.55 4018.38 MB/sec........................................................................................ Copy 170.02 3511.73 MB/sec
Stream 157.78............................................................................................................... Stream 155.13
Copy 149.45 3086.74 MB/sec ..........................................................................................Copy 145.68 3008.96 MB/sec
Scale 149.59 3090.58 MB/sec ..........................................................................................Scale 148.27 3063.14 MB/sec
Add 167.78 3574.06 MB/sec............................................................................................. Add 163.86 3490.65 MB/sec
Triad 166.22 3555.81 MB/sec........................................................................................ Triad 164.68 3522.90 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 180.05....................................................................................... Quartz Graphics Test 182.01
Line 144.88 9.65 Klines/sec [50% alpha]......................................................................... Line 148.96 9.92 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 185.50 55.38 Krects/sec [50% alpha] ...............................................................Rectangle 192.49 57.47 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 153.22 12.49 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]...................................................................... Circle 153.05 12.48 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 152.83 3.85 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Bezier .........................................................151.69 3.83 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 415.25 25.98 Kchars/sec ............................................................................................Text 410.48 25.68 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 128.66....................................................................................... OpenGL Graphics Test 131.33
Spinning Squares 128.66 163.21 frames/sec .................................................................Spinning Squares 131.33 166.61 frames/sec
User Interface Test 258.29 ...........................................................................................User Interface Test 261.84
Elements 258.29 1.19 Krefresh/sec ..............................................................................Elements 261.84 1.20 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 48.68.............................................................................................................. Disk Test 62.16
Sequential 92.99......................................................................................................... Sequential 99.66
Uncached Write 136.42 83.76 MB/sec [4K blocks]........................................................ Uncached Write 109.99 67.53 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 143.96 81.45 MB/sec [256K blocks] ...................................................Uncached Write 130.26 73.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 44.66 13.07 MB/sec [4K blocks]........................................................... Uncached Read 59.55 17.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 157.57 79.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]...................................................... Uncached Read 152.07 76.43 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 32.97........................................................................................................... Random 45.16
Uncached Write 10.83 1.15 MB/sec [4K blocks] ..........................................................Uncached Write 17.14 1.81 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 105.71 33.84 MB/sec [256K blocks] ..................................................Uncached Write 130.19 41.68 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 79.82 0.57 MB/sec [4K blocks] ...........................................................Uncached Read 69.24 0.49 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 143.87 26.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]....................................................Uncached Read 123.47 22.91 MB/sec [256K blocks]

remember this is a 2.0 I posted all my 2.26 tests yesterday

this is the most interesting result of all my tests.
Based on these scores the western digital 500gb 5400rpm is equal or close to the hitachi 320gb 7200rpm in most ways.
this is with the same computer the same memory sticks. the wd costs more around 95 the hitachi runs for 60 on a sale. both are quiet
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

TonyMontana · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:39 am Post subject:

I guess I should have researched this drive more before I purchased it. It is slow as hell, comparatively. After rebate I'm only out $51.99. Can't complain on that end. Smile

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philiparcario · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject:

tony it is still a lot faster then the oem 120gb and quiet.
i have one in my 1.83 4gb mini for 4 months not a thing wrong with it. also it is better on the uncached read and write sequential 256k block tests which means click and drag copies of itunes
(or any larger file pictures) are faster on it then the wd 5400rpm drive.
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

estuardo · New Member Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

Philiparcario,

I saw your test. What I can't find is a Xbench test running the stock 2.0GHz $599.00 USD Mini with 1GB of memory against a 2.26GHz Mini with the same base 1GB and the same 120GB HDD.

I'm planning to buy more memory and a faster HDD in the future, but right now I just want to know the speed difference between the two basic system with different processor speeds.

Thank you very much for your help.

gb

TonyMontana · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject:

Estuardo I would give them about a 10 point difference. Maybe a 110 vs a 120. You can poke around and look for some stock configs and general average.

http://db.xbench.com/comparesubindex.xhtml?machineTypeID=33&sort=date&minVersion=1.3

The link is in order by submit date being that the new mini's will be in the last few weeks, It might be easier to sift through this way.
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philiparcario · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:

no the oem 120gm 2.26 with 1 gb is very fast here are results

right now I don't have a test for 2.0 model. the results are very good with the 2.26 and 1gb for xbench. if you don't need too encode with handbrake the 2.26 model with 1 gb stripped would be a good deal. it is 750 at apple. you order a basic 2.0ghz with the 2.26ghz cpu option. use it with the sans digital as an external.

total comes to 900 plus you need two 3.5 inch hdds say 180 for a pair of 1tb's without any deals.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822110002

Results 131.92
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model Macmini3,1
Drive Type FUJITSU MHZ2120BH G1
CPU Test 141.79
GCD Loop 256.68 13.53 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 125.70 2.99 Gﬂop/sec
vecLib FFT 91.24 3.01 Gﬂop/sec
Floating Point Library 185.19 32.25 Mops/sec
Thread Test 328.27
Computation 448.71 9.09 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 258.81 11.13 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 142.59
System 199.49
Allocate 264.14 970.02 Kalloc/sec
Fill 164.98 8021.83 MB/sec
Copy 192.64 3978.87 MB/sec
Stream 110.94
Copy 108.64 2243.88 MB/sec
Scale 98.14 2027.49 MB/sec
Add 119.89 2553.87 MB/sec
Triad 120.20 2571.39 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 194.30
Line 157.22 10.47 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 191.57 57.19 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 169.44 13.81 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 166.82 4.21 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 443.28 27.73 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 139.26
Spinning Squares 139.26 176.65 frames/sec
Spinning Squares 139.26 176.65 frames/sec
User Interface Test 300.72
Elements 300.72 1.38 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 49.27
Sequential 65.07
Uncached Write 80.56 49.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 58.48 33.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 44.58 13.05 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 104.97 52.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 39.65
Uncached Write 15.44 1.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 90.61 29.01 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 62.88 0.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 108.90 20.21 MB/sec [256K blocks]
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2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd

promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station

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