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JohnnyBoy
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| Cypher wrote: | | That’s the same modem as I have Johnny. It’s a cable modem not a DSL modem. |
Y'see? I told you that I was a total numpty with this stuff! I thought that a DSL modem and a cable modem were the same thing... 
| Cypher wrote: | The blue ethernet cable plugged in the back will currently go to you mini's ethernet port. The new router will likely have 5 ethernet ports on the back, the 4 close together will be the 4 port switch and the other one on its own will be the outgoing network connection WAN (ie the internet)
You plug the mini into the 4 port switch on the router, any one of the 4 ports will do, then connect an ethernet cable between your cable modem and the internet WAN port on the router. |
Thank you, Cypher. There's some directions that even I can understand!  
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usarcher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnnyBoy wrote: | Well I can quite easily pick up at least 3 neighbours' wi-fi networks from inside my house... so I imagine that they can do the same to mine.
I've got Virgin cable broadband, so I've been investigating "DSL routers". This seems to be a good one: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48546 |
I have a Netgear wireless router and never had a problem with it until I got my iPhone. The computers are still fine with it but for some reason with the iPhone it just drops the connection even when I am sitting right next to it. Yet when I am walking down my driveway like 100 meters away I can get a signal. At work where we have Airports no issues at all. Not sure if it is just my version which uses MIMO. |
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Cypher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Here's mine. I just had to drag the cable modem from down the back of the cupboard.
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JohnnyBoy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the photo, Cypher.
Usarcher mentioned the Airport hardware -- just out of interest, can an AirPort Express Base Station do the same job as a Netgear wireless router? Or are they slightly different?
I noticed the ethernet port on the AEBS, and wondered if that could be plugged into a cable modem.... 
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usarcher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnnyBoy wrote: | Thanks for the photo, Cypher.
Usarcher mentioned the Airport hardware -- just out of interest, can an AirPort Express Base Station do the same job as a Netgear wireless router? Or are they slightly different?
I noticed the ethernet port on the AEBS, and wondered if that could be plugged into a cable modem.... |
Only real difference, connection wise, is that the Express doesn't allow you to have the mini wired since it doesn't have any extra ports. So your entire network would have to be wireless. |
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Cypher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Just grabbed the manual from the support section and it looks like it will
rest of the manual can be found here
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/AirPort_Express_Setup_Guide.pdf
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JohnnyBoy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| usarcher wrote: | | Only real difference, connection wise, is that the Express doesn't allow you to have the mini wired since it doesn't have any extra ports. So your entire network would have to be wireless. |
Ah, so it can do the same job, but you trade connection flexibility for better compatibility/reliability (and some more cash!).
It's a pity that an external USB drive can't be plugged into that AEBS - it would make a really easy-to-setup file server for the whole house... 
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usarcher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnnyBoy wrote: | | usarcher wrote: | | Only real difference, connection wise, is that the Express doesn't allow you to have the mini wired since it doesn't have any extra ports. So your entire network would have to be wireless. |
Ah, so it can do the same job, but you trade connection flexibility for better compatibility/reliability (and some more cash!).
It's a pity that an external USB drive can't be plugged into that AEBS - it would make a really easy-to-setup file server for the whole house... |
Well you can do that with the Extreme, but adds more cash to the setup. |
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JohnnyBoy
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Well, I've made my move and bid on a second-hand one of these...
I know that it's not wireless, but it's a really cheap way for me to get a basic network up and running that shares my cable modem. And after listening to Cypher and usarcher, I think it's going to be preferable to a Linksys 5-port ethernet hub.
Like I say, I'm no expert on this stuff, so spending just a few pounds on a wired router is a low-risk way for me to learn the ropes...
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| Good luck on the bidding. Its always nice to have wired connections available, plus its hard to hack into vs. wireless, unless you leave your door unlocked |
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| usarcher wrote: | | ...plus its hard to hack into vs. wireless, unless you leave your door unlocked |
Absolutely, usarcher. That was certainly a part of my ultimate decision!
The auction finishes tomorrow evening, so after the deadline I'll post back here to report on how it went.
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JohnnyBoy
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Router auction update (I know that you're itching to know the latest... )
I checked the auction, and some cheeky scoundrel had the temerity to outbid my £4 offer with a 20p raise.
So I thought "To heck with you, buddy" and paid £15 using "Buy it now" to secure the same with power supply, instruction booklet and CD. (TBH, the auction that I initially bid on didn't state that the goods had been tested and were working, so the second bidder may well have done me a favour)
Now I just have to wait for our ever-reliable Royal Mail to deliver the goods. 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Don't you just hate some e-bay sellers, £10 delivery the robbing sod 
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JohnnyBoy
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You're not wrong, Cypher! Let's just say that I'm expecting A LOT of packaging!
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I'd want it Chauffeur driven for that 
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