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Psystar Responds to Apple Suit, Will Countersue

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Psystar Responds to Apple Suit, Will Countersue Reply with quote

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Mac clone maker Psystar plans to file its answer to Apple's copyright infringement lawsuit Tuesday as well as a countersuit of its own, alleging that Apple engages in anticompetitive business practices. Miami-based Psystar, owned by Rudy Pedraza, will sue Apple under two federal laws designed to discourage monopolies and cartels, the Sherman Antitrust Act and the Clayton Antitrust Act, saying Apple's tying of the Mac OS to Apple-labeled hardware is "an anticompetitive restrain of trade", according to attorney Colby Springer of antitrust specialists Carr & Ferrell.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10026033-37.html
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one down deep sorta rooting for Psystar? Laughing

I don't know. Maybe this could open up other companies to use OS X or something. I could really care less about the monetary stuff. Apple already has like a ton of cash.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I am annoyed with Apple for restricting the types of computers that they can buy with a Mac OS; in particular for not making a mid-sized desktop, a mini-laptop, and for not upgrading the mini. I wish they would either make these available to consumers or license someone else to do so.

On the other hand, allowing PC makers to sell their computers with OSX could hurt Apple or at least force it into a different business model. It could also sully the Macintosh name, as PCs with OSX will inevitably cause their owners problems that you wouldn't get on a Macintosh computer.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It could also sully the Macintosh name, as PCs with OSX will inevitably cause their owners problems that you wouldn't get on a Macintosh computer.

That really wouldn't bother me, but it's a fair statement. Then again, do people really blame Microsoft when something breaks or doesn't work with their Dell? Maybe I'm naive that way. As for changing Apple's business model. Apple hardware sales would probably take a huge hit, but they'd probably make more money in the end. I mean from the licensing fees. You just know their market share would at least double if not more.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmen65 wrote:
Apple hardware sales would probably take a huge hit, but they'd probably make more money in the end.


I'd seriously doubt that. People will spend more on something they can touch and see and show off. OSs don't fall into that category.

Apple would end up with an OS competing directly against Windows with a far smaller market share, against a competitor with much much deeper pockets who has the option to drastically reduce the price of their product (just like they did when Linux started being shipped on OLPC and Netbooks). It'd be a very tough fight to win.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd seriously doubt that. People will spend more on something they can touch and see and show off. OSs don't fall into that category.

If that's true, then how come Microsoft are so rich? The only answer is that they have made their money because PC buyers have unwittingly paying for their copy of Windows without being asked whether they want it or not. Merely offering an alternative OS would attack MS where it hurts the most - in the minds of those customers who didn't even know that they had a choice.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris..S wrote:
I'd seriously doubt that. People will spend more on something they can touch and see and show off. OSs don't fall into that category.

If that's true, then how come Microsoft are so rich? The only answer is that they have made their money because PC buyers have unwittingly paying for their copy of Windows without being asked whether they want it or not. Merely offering an alternative OS would attack MS where it hurts the most - in the minds of those customers who didn't even know that they had a choice.


You're absolutely spot on. But would you take your business, large as it maybe, into a price war you're guaranteed to lose? Heck, M$ could probably give away consumer windows free with every machine AND offer cash back when you register. Sure that would be painful. Might even knock a billion or two off their bottom line. It'd still be a bigger bottom line than Apple's is now. Can Apple afford to have a billion or two knocked off their bottom line?

In the end this is business. Apple aren't in the business of screwing over M$. They are in the business of doing the best for their shareholders.

[aside: somehow I reckon Yahoo shareholders wished their board of directors conducted themselves with that in mind.]

[aside 2: how much money has M$ dropped taking on Sony in the game console market? No one notices as the numbers, huge as they would be for almost any other company, don't even dent M$ earnings growth.]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmen65 wrote:

That really wouldn't bother me, but it's a fair statement. Then again, do people really blame Microsoft when something breaks or doesn't work with their Dell?


Yes, ask the teachers who's laptop I have to fix for Networking I class, they all think the computer is why Windows messes up (usually it isn't), but then again their are privlages (use of the school's unrestricted web proxy server) in the class and it's pretty easy as long as you participate and do the quizes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Chris..S: Can't argue with you there, Chris. And congrats on the 500th post! Smile
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