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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.5.4 [Updated x 2]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My shutdown and boot up times seem shorter. Anyone else?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought that was the point of a Combo update? It combines all previous updates and is therefore going to get bigger each time, I may have got the wrong end of the stick though!

Doh! You guys are right. Chalk that up to poor communication and irrational exuberance. I meant to say that Leopard Combo updates are gaining weight at a much faster rate. Tiger only went from 120MB with 10.4.4 to 180MB with 10.4.11. Leopard has already gone from 343MB with 10.5.2 to 561MB with 10.5.4. We're up another like 30MB just from 10.5.3. I'm just shocked at how big these things are getting. I hope the promise of a leaner and meaner Snow Leopard holds true.

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My shutdown and boot up times seem shorter. Anyone else?

Shutdown seems faster. I was spinning with the disk more in 10.5.3.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My shutdown and boot up times seem shorter. Anyone else?

Not with the G5, but my Intel mini (1.83GHz CD2 with 3GB of RAM) feels a little faster. I just timed it at 38 seconds for startup and 12 seconds for shutdown. I'm not sure how that compares with others, but those are my numbers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My shutdown and boot up times seem shorter. Anyone else?

Not with the G5, but my Intel mini (1.83GHz CD2 with 3GB of RAM) feels a little faster. I just timed it at 38 seconds for startup and 12 seconds for shutdown. I'm not sure how that compares with others, but those are my numbers.

My shutdown seems to take a hell of a lot longer than 12 seconds on my 1.83Ghz C2D MacBook :S
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My shutdown seems to take a hell of a lot longer than 12 seconds on my 1.83Ghz C2D MacBook :S

I just timed it again and got 40 seconds for startup and 14 seconds for shutdown. Like how long is it taking you? I know my G5 is much slower. I would give you the numbers, but I'm on it. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.....it takes 1 minute 14 seconds to shut down, 44 seconds to boot to the log in screen and 17 seconds to go from the log in screen to a fully loaded desktop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok.....it takes 1 minute 14 seconds to shut down.

Wow! I don't have a MacBook, but that's pretty long. I bet you have something hanging. Have you looked in your log files? Are you running anything like Fusion or Parallels? I would assume that you've repaired your permissions and forced the maintenance scripts. I don't reckon you have a bunch of external drives or devices connected to it either.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow! I don't have a MacBook, but that's pretty long. I bet you have something hanging. Have you looked in your log files? Are you running anything like Fusion or Parallels? I would assume that you've repaired your permissions and forced the maintenance scripts. I don't reckon you have a bunch of external drives or devices connected to it either.

How do I check my log files? Nothing like Fusion or Parallels is running I closed any open apps before I click shutdown. I did run all the scripts in Onyx recently but I'm pretty sure the shutdown times have been like this for ages! The only device I have connected is a 3G USB Modem.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't downloaded the new update yet. Sounds like I should wait. I hate waiting, but it seems updates from time to time are being released prematurely and cause numerous system problems. I have a friend who has been a Mac User for 15 years & he says he NEVER does the updates immediately. He waits to hear what people are saying about them & when there are no problems, then he performs the Updates. So am I to think, updates can be like Beta software sometimes ? I'm new to the Mac. As of Feb. 2008. So I really don't know the History behind it all. Educate Me !!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trustory wrote:
How do I check my log files? Nothing like Fusion or Parallels is running I closed any open apps before I click shutdown. I did run all the scripts in Onyx recently but I'm pretty sure the shutdown times have been like this for ages! The only device I have connected is a 3G USB Modem.

I have a feeling that 3G USB modem could be slowing you down. Anyways, open up Console in your Utilities folder and look at the system.log. That might give you a clue to what's happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't noticed any good or bad changes in Leopard performance on my mini, Cube or iMac since upgrading to 10.5.4.
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Dino1956 wrote:
I haven't downloaded the new update yet. Sounds like I should wait. I hate waiting, but it seems updates from time to time are being released prematurely and cause numerous system problems. I have a friend who has been a Mac User for 15 years & he says he NEVER does the updates immediately. He waits to hear what people are saying about them & when there are no problems, then he performs the Updates. So am I to think, updates can be like Beta software sometimes ? I'm new to the Mac. As of Feb. 2008. So I really don't know the History behind it all. Educate Me !!


I've found there are two groups of people when it comes to updates.

1. Those that wait
2. Those that download it the very second it's available.

I'd fit in the second group but, to each their own as they say. . .

Your not wrong whichever group your in. . .
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dino1956 wrote:
I haven't downloaded the new update yet. Sounds like I should wait. I hate waiting, but it seems updates from time to time are being released prematurely and cause numerous system problems. I have a friend who has been a Mac User for 15 years & he says he NEVER does the updates immediately. He waits to hear what people are saying about them & when there are no problems, then he performs the Updates. So am I to think, updates can be like Beta software sometimes ? I'm new to the Mac. As of Feb. 2008. So I really don't know the History behind it all. Educate Me !!

Buying a new iPhone or MobileMe? You'll need 10.5.4. Plus, there will always be reports of problems with updates. But that doesn't necessarily mean the issues are widespread. I would always recommend using the Combo update though. I've had fewer issues going that route. JMHO
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Please explain what Combo Update is. I generally do my Updates by clicking on Black Apple & choosing Software Updates. Am I getting the Combo Update when updating in this manner?
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Dino1956 wrote:
Please explain what Combo Update is.

Dino, the combo update is the one that you get from the Apple website - it's the everything-included bundle that can update a machine from the earliest version of the current OS (10.5.0) right the way up to the current incarnation (10.5.4).
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