Obama or McCain?

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[Pleiades]

[ghostdawg]

I would agree from Polls, it seems Bush is not too popular with the majority.

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[ghostdawg]

No I can't read your mind but since you like Bush I just thought you would have liked the others I mention, since they all ran the presidency similarly, IMO. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer!

[Bobaloo]

It's quite easy for someone who is obviously not an American to say things are great and Bush is the best thing since sliced bread, but from those of us who live here under King George's rule, things have continued to decline since the day he first took office. If you want an opinion on how well he is doing ask the people in New Orleans. Maybe getting Saddam was more a priority than the welfare of people living in the U.S.A., but I disagree. Are we better off in the U.S. without Saddam, if paying 3 times the price were paying for gas before Dubya went off on his personal vendetta, we are better, but I don't think so. If a good president is rated on a failed economy, ever rising gas prices, home foreclosures and more, than so be it. I think his opinion is based on how the U.S. dollar has be so devalued, now he has great purchase power, if that makes Bush a great president, I'm glad that as of January 20, 2009 he'll be out of a job.

As far as the Taliban is concerned, they are not out of the picture at all, look at what is going on now in Afganisthan and Pakistan.

I am afraid that I must agree with ghostdawg here that America is not ready for a minority president, woman or black, but I would support either of them.
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[hackersmovie]

I'll try not to rant too much here (I have my other post for that! LOL). . .

1) I've already stated, there will be no minority leader in the USA. At least not this term

2) Bush? I've stated many things in various posts already but, to say he is a fine leader is insane. Until you've lived in the USA, being governed by the man, you may want to keep your opinions to his international policies. He fails terribly here at home, which for me is pretty darn important. Abroad, I feel he's failed as well. Our international image is no where near as good as it has been. We've INVADED, without cause, foreign countries. The only truth, I can find in that is that we should help defend weaker countries. Should we feel inclined to defend them from themselves? I think not. Should we help defend them from OTHER invaders? I think so. The only logical reason I can find with us going to either Afaghanastan or Iraq is personal monetary gain. It's sickening. What were we doing in Afghanastan anyway? We found nothing, got nothing, did nothing. Other than drop food on people and bomb the shit out of them, real productive.

So, someone tell me, exactly what GOOD ole' George W. Bush has done? Perhaps improved his golf swing? It's certainly nothing I see.



Oh, wait, I know.

1) trashed the value of the dollar
2) started 2 wars with no cause
3) crippled the US economy, while slowing the international economy as well ( kudos georgie!)
4) enacted the worst education bill to date (no child left behind) It leaves ALL the children behind in order to level the playing field, brilliant
5) near record fuel prices
6) record high home foreclosures
7) record high "credit crunch" (i.e. Bankruptcies, if you don't believe me, ask any finance manager or bank loan officer)
8 ) All but forgotten about health care, which from a very recent experience needs a major overhaul
9) enacted another great bill, the Patriot Act, which almost gives our government carte' blanch to do what they like. Hmm... can you say Communism?

O.k. that's enough, my blood pressure is up about 20 points, I need a beer. If most Americans are like me, it's possible "W" has increased the number of alcoholics as well.
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[JohnnyBoy]

From what I have seen on The Daily Show, the US media keeps referring to Hillary as a 'minority candidate'. If these guys had checked their facts they would have discovered that in the United States, there are 97 males for every 100 females. That means that McCain is a 'minority candidate'!

I suppose that's what becomes of having a media that's run by middle-aged, middle class white men.
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[Aquafire]

[JohnnyBoy]

Aquafire, the 'robustness' of your reply caught me by surprise...

The consequences of having a military-industrial-government-media complex that's dominated by one group of intransigent, arrogant, unimaginative and inflexible individuals is there to see. In fact, you can take your pick:
- global climate change
- a global finance industry without a scrap of accountability for the periodic financial crashes that it routinely causes
- an education system that hasn't changed since the industrial revolution and that continues to churn out factory workers in the West long after the factory jobs have gone to the Far East
- the catastrophic incursion into the middle-east by the English-speaking democracies

Why does nothing change? Because Bush, Rumsfeld, Blair, Murdoch and all of the other privileged daddy's boys who meet up on the golf course are quite happy to leave things as they are.

And what happens when someone comes along and talks about change? Well, the status quo protects itself, and the media moguls play their part. A man who has a black father and a white mother is labelled as "the black candidate" (Nota bene: Neither McCain or Hillary are ever labelled as "the white candidates"). "Obama" is compared with "Osama". "Christian" is swapped for "Muslim", and "school" is swapped with "madrassa". Obama and Hillary are repeatedly and continuously labelled as 'minority' candidates, so that nobody watching the news can be allowed to forget who's in charge.

And the citizens of the US continue to be bombarded with this white, middle-class male view of the world day-in-day-out for months, until they are convinced that even in a land where "all men are created equal", America isn't ready for a 'minority' candidate. And so the world gets more of the same.
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[Pleiades]

JB, the only thing I'd adjust is changing middle class to upper class. There's no chance that any of the aforementioned people are middle class.
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