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Very strange file in Trash - won't go away?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Very strange file in Trash - won't go away? Reply with quote

This random file has appeared in my Trash and will not go away, it has been there for several weeks and even if I empty the trash it doesn't go away.



I have tried viewing the contents of the trash in terminal but the file does not show up.

Quicklook shows that those diagonal lines in the file name are actually a symbol of the word NUL spelt diagonally.



Anyone any ideas what it is? Or more importantly how I can get rid of it?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried holding option while deleting the trash that might work.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope still there Sad Thanks for the idea though!

I have just discovered that if I try and move the file from the trash to the desktop it disappears completely. But the next time I add something to the trash it reappears. :S
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you possibly using onyx to show all files, maybe it is just always there and you can't see it unless you choose show hidden files. Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, but thanks for another good suggestion!

Here's a paste of the file name:

?␀␀␀÷?␀␀.?␀␀
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an 8.3 filename, as used by MS-DOS; an 8 character name, a dot and a 3 character extension. Strange.

James, have you tried to "Get Info..." on the file to see if the "Locked" checkbox is ticked?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the file you have is the same or simillar to one I had a few weeks ago instead of the ÷ sign I had something like an umlat in the center. If your runningwindows thru bootcamp/parallels/vmware, run checkdisk in windows and it should fix the problem. there is a .trash(s) file thats out of wack. A few weeks ago I solved this by running 10.5.1 update a second time and when my machine rebooted trash was empty. I don't know if running 10.5.2 update a second time will fix tho. you can read about it more at the apple forums http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1234388&tstart=0
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JCWacky,

Yes, it's a 'locked file'

Here is the solution to your problem.

Take the offending file out of the trashcan.

Then create a new folder on your desktop. Name it something like XYZ and place the undeletable file into it.

Next, download ShreditX. There is a dowloadable "free trial"

http://www.mireth.com/pub/sxme.html

Now..

Using the ShreditX program....

Locate the XYZ Folder (with the offending MS file) and click delete.

Keep clicking on the 'yes' button, until it (along with the folder) is fully deleted.

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PS : Just a second thought.

If it fails, then it might be a good idea to change the name of the file, as those characters might also make it potentially invisible to the Unix system.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a heads up have you run a virus scanner there is a new virus that some dumb hacker created and posted on bittorrent. It targets mac os x tiger and leopard.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyBoy wrote:
James, have you tried to "Get Info..." on the file to see if the "Locked" checkbox is ticked?


Doing a Get Info makes the get info window zoom up as usual, but then immediately disappears before it can show any info, along with the file from the trash. Deleting anything into the trash will cause the file to come back though.



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I think the file you have is the same or simillar to one I had a few weeks ago instead of the ÷ sign I had something like an umlat in the center. If your runningwindows thru bootcamp/parallels/vmware, run checkdisk in windows and it should fix the problem. there is a .trash(s) file thats out of wack. A few weeks ago I solved this by running 10.5.1 update a second time and when my machine rebooted trash was empty. I don't know if running 10.5.2 update a second time will fix tho. you can read about it more at the apple forums http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1234388&tstart=0


Cheers, I'll give them a go and let you know how it goes!

@Aquafire: Thanks for the tips but if I try to move the file out of the trash it just disappears completely, and then turns up in the trash again next time I delete something. If I try to rename it, the following error just appears:


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Just a heads up have you run a virus scanner there is a new virus that some dumb hacker created and posted on bittorrent. It targets mac os x tiger and leopard.


I haven't but I'll give that I go now, cheers!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jcwacky wrote:
Aquafire: Thanks for the tips but if I try to move the file out of the trash it just disappears completely, and then turns up in the trash again next time I delete something. If I try to rename it, the following error just appears:!


OK, that tells me it has possibly corrupted your user/administration account.

You can do one of two things..

(1) Use "Time Machine" to set your OS to a time before the corruption.

or

(2)

Download a copy of Onyx

It will reset all permissions and other OS parameters etc to their proper settings and get rid of the offending 'invisible/miscreant file' in the process.

Of the two options, my preference is to use Onyx.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any update on this? I've found plenty of people with the same problem, but I haven't found any solution.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird. I just noticed that the file disappears while VWare Fusion is booted into Windows. Then it reappears once it's shut down.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Fixed!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Joel,

Except Jcwacky appears not to be running Windows XP.

From what I can gather, he is just running MS Word. And the file concerned is a bit of gunk leftover in the trash... Cool

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