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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Parental Control Log Reply with quote

Long time lurker, first post here!

I've recently upgraded to Leopard and set up accounts for my family. All accounts are managed, and I am the only administrator on the machine. I didn't bother at first but now I want to set up parental controls on my son's account, mainly to control the amount of time spent on-line.

I noticed that every site visited is being logged and retained. I want to start afresh for all the managed accounts (especially for my son who has the curiosity associated with being 17...) and clear this log. I am hoping that once he realises I am able to monitor where he goes, he might be better controlled... But I don't want to embarrass him with his existing history.

All of which is rambling way of getting to the point that I can't see any way to delete these logs. I have found a folder that might contain the logs but it seems to be locked against even my administrator access (?).

Am I missing something? I can understand why the managed account holders can't clear the log, but surely the administrator should be able to, well, administer them?

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: terminal Reply with quote

Wellington, how comfortable are you at using the terminal? If you feel up to it I can tell you how to access the file however it is completely down through the terminal.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: terminal Reply with quote

[quote="usarcher"]Wellington, how comfortable are you at using the terminal? If you feel up to it I can tell you how to access the file however it is completely down through the terminal.[/quote]

I imagined it would require command line input... I am comfortable with the terminal; I've used unix CLIs in the "good" old days. Very grateful for being pointed in the direction of what to do though!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Terminal Reply with quote

Well then fire up terminal Cool

First you will need to enter:

sudo -s

This will ask for your password, after entering your admin password type in:

ls /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/name

Where I wrote name in this command substitute your sons account name. This will list everything in that folder and it should look something like this:

ls /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/student/
2008 events.data

The 2008 on my example is actually another directory/folder you can run the same ls command but after the username/ put the 2008. Which will show more folders. Basically I believe Apple has set it up in terms of year/month/day. So I think if there is a certain time you want to erase back to this is how to find the locations of the history files.

Finally to remove the files simply run the rm comand like this:

rm /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/student/2008/02/14-usage.data

You could also just remove the folder for the given month/year by stopping at the 2008/02/
My example shows just deleting the the usage on the 02/14/08.

Now backing up to the file events.data, I'm not sure if it needs to be deleted or not.
Once you have removed the histories you don't want anymore, quit out of the terminal and restart your computer.

That should do it. Let me know how it goes or if I can help some more. I work for a school where we have been trying to get away from the program contentbarrier. Parental Controls in leopard looks to be a nice built in feature.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Terminal Reply with quote

[quote="usarcher"]Well then fire up terminal Cool

First you will need to enter:

sudo -s

This will ask for your password, after entering your admin password type in:

ls /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/name

Where I wrote name in this command substitute your sons account name. This will list everything in that folder and it should look something like this:

ls /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/student/
2008 events.data

The 2008 on my example is actually another directory/folder you can run the same ls command but after the username/ put the 2008. Which will show more folders. Basically I believe Apple has set it up in terms of year/month/day. So I think if there is a certain time you want to erase back to this is how to find the locations of the history files.

Finally to remove the files simply run the rm comand like this:

rm /Library/Application\ Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/student/2008/02/14-usage.data

You could also just remove the folder for the given month/year by stopping at the 2008/02/
My example shows just deleting the the usage on the 02/14/08.

Now backing up to the file events.data, I'm not sure if it needs to be deleted or not.
Once you have removed the histories you don't want anymore, quit out of the terminal and restart your computer.

That should do it. Let me know how it goes or if I can help some more. I work for a school where we have been trying to get away from the program contentbarrier. Parental Controls in leopard looks to be a nice built in feature.[/quote]

Excellent - straightforward when you know how. I am still bemused why an administrator can't perform a simple bit of housekeeping more simply but there we go.

I also note that normal users will seemingly have every website they access logged forever with no way to clear the records. I suggest that if Microsoft did this, there would be a furore...?

Anyway, many thanks for your help - I had thought I was not going to get a response!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I could help. We just got a copy of Leopard at work and were trying to play around with the logs to have them emailed to us instead of having to look at every single laptop, around 700 or so.

[quote] I am still bemused why an administrator can't perform a simple bit of housekeeping more simply but there we go. [/quote]

Apple should definitely add the ability to simply delete from the Parental Control preference pane, hopefully they will at some point.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Thanks, this is great! And I added more for reading logs Reply with quote

This topic helped me a great deal. I was clueless on where to find the logs. I do not like the way Apple shows the web logs in the Parental Controls. I wanted to parse them and view them in a nicer way.

Tools needed:
Firefox has an add-on called SQLite Manager.
[url]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817[/url]

I first acquire the desired events.data file found here:
/Library/Application Support/Apple/ParentalControls/Users/name/events.data (name is the user)

Using SQLite Manager, I "Connect Database" and point to the events.data file I've stored locally.

ZWEBSITE is a table within the data.

"Browse and Search" reveals the website log. Columns can be re-sized. Nice!

Bummer, they have a floating point unix/SQLite/OLE time stamp. And it appears to have a different base date. So I goofed around for a bit and found a conversion to use in MSExcel.

Back on the SQLite Manager "Structure" tab is an "Export" button.
Export a CSV file.

I open the file in MSExcel and then use this function to interpret the date:
=(D1+3061130399.82336)/3600/24+DATEVALUE("1/1/1904")
Where D1 contains the unix date stamp from the ParentalControls log file.
That big ugly number 3061130399 is the conversion I found necessary to match the OLE timestamp. (I compared the number of seconds MSExcel thought the date was from their base date of 1/1/1904 00:00 to what the log file seconds thought the time stamp was. Incidentally, just to compare unix time stamp with the OLE stamp I needed to convert by 978307200-6*3600 where the -6 comes from my time zone compared to GMT. But the 978307200-6*3600 was not necessary within MSExcel.)
Copy the formula down and there it was (after I formatted the new date column for my preference: dddd, yyyy-mmm-dd h:mm AM/PM)

Thanks for the huge jump-start you all provided. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Deleting parental controls WITHOUT going thru Terminal!! Reply with quote

ok, so u don't need the terminal if you don't want to BUT you're gonna need the original Install discs.

You need Install Disc 1.

Put it in and restart the computer. When it goes black hold down "c." This restart isn't a regular restart so it might take a lil longer than usual.

On the first screen, choose, English, the first choice, and it will bring you to the installing page. Just go up to the menu bar, click Utilities, then Reset Password.

Choose System Administrator (root) and choose a new password. Then quit the installer and restart.

When you come back to your regular account, log into the the new System Admin. account.

Go to your hard drive, Library, Application Support, Apple, Parental COntrols, users, and......DELETE the events.data and the rest of the log data inside your "YEAR" folder.

And it's done!!

I just did it myself!! YAY!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks, this is great! And I added more for reading logs Reply with quote

[quote="doul"]
"Browse and Search" reveals the website log. Columns can be re-sized. Nice!
[/quote]

So this method allows you to view the logs cleanly without viewing through the Parental Control pref. Very nice I will have to give it a try.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Deleting parental controls WITHOUT going thru Terminal!! Reply with quote

[quote="remmman"]ok, so u don't need the terminal if you don't want to BUT you're gonna need the original Install discs.

You need Install Disc 1.

Put it in and restart the computer. When it goes black hold down "c." This restart isn't a regular restart so it might take a lil longer than usual.

On the first screen, choose, English, the first choice, and it will bring you to the installing page. Just go up to the menu bar, click Utilities, then Reset Password.

Choose System Administrator (root) and choose a new password. Then quit the installer and restart.

When you come back to your regular account, log into the the new System Admin. account.

Go to your hard drive, Library, Application Support, Apple, Parental COntrols, users, and......DELETE the events.data and the rest of the log data inside your "YEAR" folder.

And it's done!!

I just did it myself!! YAY!!![/quote]

Why do all of that, it is very easy to go through the terminal, plus a lot of fun. Everyone should learn how to use terminal Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: how to read the datecodes Reply with quote

Thanks for the tutorial on how to access the parental control logs. Can anyone tell me how to convert the timestamp to a real date?

Mike
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