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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Why is no one excited about the Time Capsule? Reply with quote

Don't know about you folks, but this is a great solution for me. Sits nicely on top of the Mac Mini, replaces the UFO-shaped Airport base station and what would have been yet another piece of hardware (the external back-up hard drive) and provides wireless back-up for my MacBook Pro. Also means I can place it close enough to my USB printer that I can finally print from the laptop without having to switch on the Mini. Plus there are three ethernet ports! The HDD being server quality is a surprise, since I've come to expect Apple to cut corners in order to increase it's profit margin on each unit.

On a value for money aspect, I think the 1 TB model is probably the way to go. In Australia, a 1TB drive will set you back around $490-$650. Add the cost of an Airport base station and a HDD case with a Mini-like form factor to the equation and I think the total price will be much greater.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, people have been wayy to quiet about this. I think I might be getting a 1TB one for home (my Mini is literally a few feet too far from my BT HomeHub to get a wireless signal from its 802.11/g source) and possibly the 500GB one for when I'm at uni, because off all the campuses I have seen so far, all of them have cat-5 networking only, which sucks ass if you're going to go to the pain of spending over a grand on an ├╝ber-cool black MacBook (which I am doing ASAP).

Its a neat piece of technology that fills the gap and solves tons of problems at the same time, vis making sure that a certain router and hard drive are compatible (believe me, I've had this problem twice now) and also making sure that all the computers in the building (although mine would be VERY secure at uni) can connect to it first time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it as well, and when the time comes to grab another HDD or replace my existing router I think this will be on the top of my shopping list.

Plus points
Printer Option on the USB
Gigabit Network for the wired devices
option to fit a hub and use addtional USB drives
Seemless automated back up
802.11n for the notebooks

Negative points
I'd just forked out for a firewire drive otherwise I would have one on order now Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: W00T Reply with quote

W00T w00t W00T w00t W00T w00t, there that's my excitement.
I like the Time Capsule too, but it's just not too exciting to me, considering I'm down in my room and our router would have to be upstairs, and I would only have one Mac, using an external HDD just works better for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like Time Capsule as well as all the Air Port Base stations, the one problem I have with it is that quite a lot of people use ADSL broadband which would mean buying an additional modem to hook on to the base station when I there are other wired and wireless base station that have them all in included.

It would be nice to see Apple include an ADSL modem in to their Airport Base stations since it is a well established technology that is widely used.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robinscruffy wrote:
I really like Time Capsule as well as all the Air Port Base stations, the one problem I have with it is that quite a lot of people use ADSL broadband which would mean buying an additional modem to hook on to the base station when I there are other wired and wireless base station that have them all in included.


Although providing ADSL capability would be nice, what about people that get their internet through cable?

Generally (at least here in the UK), your ISP supplies you with a box with which you can connect to their service. You will be able to use that existing box with the Time Capsule. Simply connect one of the ethernet ports on that box to the WAN port on the time capsule. If there are any other network ports on the ISP supplied box, don't use them and if it also has wireless use the admin interface to disable it.

For more complex setups, like running services on your network or playing games online, you will probably need to configure the ISP box in bridge mode or set the time capsule to be a DMZ server or configure its NAT to pass all ports (1-65535) through to the Time Capsule.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris..S wrote:
Although providing ADSL capability would be nice, what about people that get their internet through cable?

Generally (at least here in the UK), your ISP supplies you with a box with which you can connect to their service. You will be able to use that existing box with the Time Capsule. Simply connect one of the ethernet ports on that box to the WAN port on the time capsule. If there are any other network ports on the ISP supplied box, don't use them and if it also has wireless use the admin interface to disable it.

For more complex setups, like running services on your network or playing games online, you will probably need to configure the ISP box in bridge mode or set the time capsule to be a DMZ server or configure its NAT to pass all ports (1-65535) through to the Time Capsule.


Well perhaps a sort of adapter that would be reasonably sized to plug into the back of the device but the whole point of plugging in your modem in ruins the whole Apple ethos that we've all come to love.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robinscruffy wrote:
It would be nice to see Apple include an ADSL modem in to their Airport Base stations since it is a well established technology that is widely used.

The problem is that if Apple supplied technology that interfaced directly with your ISP, then chances are likely that Apple would suffer from the blame game that tends to happen when you mix network equipment with poorly trained technical support.

Not to mention the myriad of methods people access the internet. ADSL is used in some areas, but so is cable, fios, and a bunch of others. Picking one or two wouldn't really be in Apple's best interests.

Here's the solution: hide your modem (be it DSL, Cable, or Tin Cans on a String) in a drawer, closet, behind your couch, etc. Run a simple white ethernet cable from the modem to the pretty Time Capsule/Airport Base Station. Then you get to have your cake, eat it too, and connect to the internet to look at cake porn without having to look at an ugly modem.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend getting one now if you want value. 1TB drives will quickly come down over time and the Airport base station will likely remain the same price and start looking like not such a good deal within 1 year.

Technologically I think this is a great product.

I love how Apple looks at they way people live their lives and creates devices that conform to our lifestyles rather than expecting people to conform to technology.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClunkClunk wrote:
Then you get to have your cake, eat it too, and connect to the internet to look at cake porn without having to look at an ugly modem.

I found cake porn!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/65096610@N00/215326746/
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no doubt that prices will come down, but I think the other considerations I mentioned in my first post will continue to make this a worthwhile option.

Here in Australia ISPs provide people with a free modem so the need for a built-in isn't as critical as it used to be when the Airports first came out. (Back then, the base stations had a built-in dial-up modem). So, having the modem built into Time Capsule isn't a deal killer for me. I've also found that trouble-shooting is a lot quicker for my ISP's tech support people as they're familiar with any quirks their modems may exhibit.

If Time Capsule meshes as seamlessly with my modem as the Airport did, then I'll be happy. (As opposed to the well-known wireless router I had to return the next day because it refused to recognise the modem despite everything I and the tech support people [plural] could think of).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyBoy wrote:
I found cake porn!

There's a whole FoodPorn cluster on Flickr. High res macro images of various delectable treats. Yum.
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