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toru173
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| There's a lot of information in the thread at MacRumors here. Although the thread is tailored towards getting a graphics card in the Mini it is equally applicable to connecting a RAID card. The thread has enough information that you should be able to build your own connector if you want. |
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cbergeron
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bobwalberg - your post makes no sense. You'll have to have external power to power external SATA drives. If you use a RocketRaid PICex card, you may have issues with getting the EFI to initialize it.
Please clarify...? |
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| cbergeron wrote: | bobwalberg - your post makes no sense. You'll have to have external power to power external SATA drives. If you use a RocketRaid PICex card, you may have issues with getting the EFI to initialize it.
Please clarify...? |
Yep i want to use a pemini2x1-F it have a power connector. I have contacted the factory, but until now nothing heard of it. I should use a RocketRaid but then the normal sata raid version not the esata.
The only other options there are:
build a pc > cheap but how with SATA raid drivers??
Buy a Powermac > no option cost 3000 dollars (without sata card) i don't have it.
On this moment i have a dlink 323 for backup but it won't work very well so i need a raid because Harddisks always going broke after some time. |
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Grincheux
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Hi,
I think i'm looking for quite the same things as bobwalberg.
I'm building a file server based on a Mac Mini and want to add SATA drives in it.
I red cbergeron's replies too fast and ordered an addonic PM (not the HPM), I confirm it didn't work. So I thought to use the mini-PCIe as I don't use the Airport card.
So before ordering anything new (I think of the pemini2x1-F and then a PCIe SATA card), I would like someone to confirm that it actually work.
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| Grincheux wrote: | Hi,
I think i'm looking for quite the same things as bobwalberg.
I'm building a file server based on a Mac Mini and want to add SATA drives in it.
I red cbergeron's replies too fast and ordered an addonic PM (not the HPM), I confirm it didn't work. So I thought to use the mini-PCIe as I don't use the Airport card.
So before ordering anything new (I think of the pemini2x1-F and then a PCIe SATA card), I would like someone to confirm that it actually work. |
Too bad i have tried to buy this pe.. card but they don't sell to private persons. |
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Grincheux
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Nope at the end of december i have tried it but they won't buy it in America just for 1 person. The English parter do but it wil cost a lot more (first they buy it in America and then wait for transport out of America (6-8 weeks) and then from England they send it to Holland or France or something and that will cost about weeks and Ad 40% to the price. So i have bought no card yet. I was hoping that someone here has a solution but for this moment no one. |
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| cbergeron wrote: | Well, interestingly, I haven't been able to get it to boot from USB->eSata adapter either.
I can try and pick up a Firewire->eSata adapter and see if that works.
There has GOT TO BE A WAY I can get more drive performance out of this mini... |
Also a Firewire to (e)sata adapter i coudn't find, only USB to SATA but that is useless. |
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Tastannin wrote: | | cbergeron wrote: | Well, interestingly, I haven't been able to get it to boot from USB->eSata adapter either.
I can try and pick up a Firewire->eSata adapter and see if that works. |
Nah, probably won't work. It's not bootable, period.
Actually I meant boot off a separate drive connected via Firewire, and use the RAID 10 volume as a data volume. Sorry if I wasn't too clear this am. The usual Monday AM Blues. LOL.
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There has GOT TO BE A WAY I can get more drive performance out of this mini... |
I won't be surprised that within a year or two, there will be true hardware port multipliers that will let you use any eSATA port with multiple volumes/RAID sets. Just have to see if those will come out before a MacPro Mini, hehe.
I'm eyeing this box (actually before coming across your HPM postings, then realized it has the same Steelvine Sil 5744 controller as the 2 port Addonics HPM mentioned earlier) for RAID 1 functionality. It seems like it should allow RAID 0, 1, JBOD, plus a couple of other modes, but only does two drives. I'm not sure about bootability, tho, so am not sure if I want to risk the $ to find out. I think I'll save the $ for Leopard, actually. If I finish off a couple more consulting projects, and get the extra cash, I might go for it. 
Didn't someone else order the $55 Addonics 2 port HPM board tho? Any good results yet? |
Nope a guy in NY have made a connector from the connector of the Mini pci-e with a bandcable to the outsite and make there a cardbus compatible connector. Put in a cardbus card with 2 sata connectors but was not able to use the both connectors on 2 drivers, only 1 at the same time, no raid (and the cardbus card could user raid 0 and 1, also PM connector only respond with 1 device. Mac osx (also Leopard) does a check on the motherboard > ah its a mac mini > not allowed to use more than 2 sata on the same time.
So this function is restricted by Apple, not the hardware. Maybe they want to push us to buy an expensive Powermac? |
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Tastannin wrote: | | cbergeron wrote: | Well, interestingly, I haven't been able to get it to boot from USB->eSata adapter either.
I can try and pick up a Firewire->eSata adapter and see if that works. |
Nah, probably won't work. It's not bootable, period.
Actually I meant boot off a separate drive connected via Firewire, and use the RAID 10 volume as a data volume. Sorry if I wasn't too clear this am. The usual Monday AM Blues. LOL.
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There has GOT TO BE A WAY I can get more drive performance out of this mini... |
I won't be surprised that within a year or two, there will be true hardware port multipliers that will let you use any eSATA port with multiple volumes/RAID sets. Just have to see if those will come out before a MacPro Mini, hehe.
I'm eyeing this box (actually before coming across your HPM postings, then realized it has the same Steelvine Sil 5744 controller as the 2 port Addonics HPM mentioned earlier) for RAID 1 functionality. It seems like it should allow RAID 0, 1, JBOD, plus a couple of other modes, but only does two drives. I'm not sure about bootability, tho, so am not sure if I want to risk the $ to find out. I think I'll save the $ for Leopard, actually. If I finish off a couple more consulting projects, and get the extra cash, I might go for it.
Didn't someone else order the $55 Addonics 2 port HPM board tho? Any good results yet? |
Nope a guy in NY have made a connector from the connector of the Mini pci-e with a bandcable to the outsite and make there a cardbus compatible connector. Put in a cardbus card with 2 sata connectors but was not able to use the both connectors on 2 drivers, only 1 at the same time, no raid (and the cardbus card could user raid 0 and 1, also PM connector only respond with 1 device. Mac osx (also Leopard) does a check on the motherboard > ah its a mac mini > not allowed to use more than 2 sata on the same time.
So this function is restricted by Apple, not the hardware. Maybe they want to push us to buy an expensive Powermac? |
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| Tastannin wrote: | | cbergeron wrote: | Well, interestingly, I haven't been able to get it to boot from USB->eSata adapter either.
I can try and pick up a Firewire->eSata adapter and see if that works. |
Nah, probably won't work. It's not bootable, period.
Actually I meant boot off a separate drive connected via Firewire, and use the RAID 10 volume as a data volume. Sorry if I wasn't too clear this am. The usual Monday AM Blues. LOL.
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There has GOT TO BE A WAY I can get more drive performance out of this mini... |
I won't be surprised that within a year or two, there will be true hardware port multipliers that will let you use any eSATA port with multiple volumes/RAID sets. Just have to see if those will come out before a MacPro Mini, hehe.
I'm eyeing this box (actually before coming across your HPM postings, then realized it has the same Steelvine Sil 5744 controller as the 2 port Addonics HPM mentioned earlier) for RAID 1 functionality. It seems like it should allow RAID 0, 1, JBOD, plus a couple of other modes, but only does two drives. I'm not sure about bootability, tho, so am not sure if I want to risk the $ to find out. I think I'll save the $ for Leopard, actually. If I finish off a couple more consulting projects, and get the extra cash, I might go for it.
Didn't someone else order the $55 Addonics 2 port HPM board tho? Any good results yet? |
Nope a guy in NY have made a connector from the connector of the Mini pci-e with a bandcable to the outsite and make there a cardbus compatible connector. Put in a cardbus card with 2 sata connectors but was not able to use the both connectors on 2 drivers, only 1 at the same time, no raid (and the cardbus card could user raid 0 and 1, also PM connector only respond with 1 device. Mac osx (also Leopard) does a check on the motherboard > ah its a mac mini > not allowed to use more than 2 sata on the same time.
So this function is restricted by Apple, not the hardware. Maybe they want to push us to buy an expensive Powermac? |
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Grincheux
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Very bad news you bring us here bobwalberg 
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: pemini |
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| Grincheux wrote: | | Very bad news you bring us here bobwalberg |
Yep, first i heard it i was down, but later on i got a mail from Germany (Yes i tried it again!!) and i could buy the converter card.
Of coarse we have the software problem but buying a powermac is no option so i'll find a way to tackle the software restriction. I have a lot of video productions in HD to make, i am a technician not a software specialist so maybe it wil cost a few weeks but i am not going to fall for this blackmail from Apple.
Hallo,
vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage.
Der Preis für den pemini2x1-F Adapter ist EUR 92,50 plus EUR 10,00 Versandkosten.
Lieferzeit: ca. 1-2 Wochen nach Auftragseingang
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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bobwalberg
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: pemini2x1-F |
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I just have installed the pemini2x1-F Now i am searching for a Pci-e 1x card, I think i buy a rocketraid 2300 (4 channels > raid 10) but i'm not shure if this card is mac compatible.
Someone have an idea? or thinking of another Brand card?
With the card there was no documentation (how to put power on the 4 way connector, i think its just a mini (cd) drive power connector as on a power supply). |
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Grincheux
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I don`t know for the Rocketraid 2300 but it seems to work with the 2302 (2 internal plus 2 external).
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