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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.4.10
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For those interested here is an article on possible fixes for the audio "pops."

http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20070622084922319


I'm also hearing these pops. Would you guys recommend trying this method or waiting a few days to see if Apples comes up with a fix? Was it even successful?


I can't say as that was not my particular problem. Mine was an audio interface no longer working. I had been over to the Apple support forums which is where I got the link. There seems to be two major problems mentioned at those forums. Both seem to have roughly an equal number of users reporting problems. And to me it seems that there are many. One is the report of audio "pops" and static. The other is an audio interface no longer working (not just a single brand. either; Behringer, Alessis, M-Audio were some mentioned). My solution for the time being was to re-copy 10.4.9 that I had on an external drive back to my internal drive. I hesitate to give anyone advice; but, if it were me and I had it to do over again; I would wait and see what Apple does. It just seems to me that there are too many similar problems to just let things lie as they are. Also, it won't cost anything to wait and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That stinks! Does it happen more often in a specific application? I've heard small popping/clicking sounds in iTunes and Front Row from day one with my Intel Mac mini. It basically makes this noise as you begin playing a song or when you change tracks. Have you tried re-applying the combo?

I noticed it in non-sound apps like Entourage and Safari. I don't notice anything special in iTunes. The noise is not loud. I'm wondering if it's a drive noise? But it isn't a seek noise; more like a soft "pop". Each "pop" has the same pitch and volume. The rate of recurrence is what's irregular; I'm guessing every 10 seconds to a minute.


I get that same thing, is there any way to fix it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See the updated Macfixit article #5 here. You can also try reverting to 10.4.9. In my case, it's not that bad that I can't live with it until Apple issues a fix.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Fox. For me, trying to work on a Mini with 10.4.10 is like trying to sleep with a dripping faucet. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks, Fox. For me, trying to work on a Mini with 10.4.10 is like trying to sleep with a dripping faucet. Evil or Very Mad


That sounds like a bad analogy. I'm glad I haven't encountered the problems you are facing.

(Knocks on wood)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope Apple is looking into this matter. This is obviously a widespread problem that affects many different Macs. I have basically disconnected my speakers in an effort to stop the pops. This is my first problem with an update, and I'm very disappointed with the response out of Apple. It might be time they put down those shiny new iPhones and refocus on computers for a second. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have any of you attempted to fix the noise problem by substituting the relevant 10.4.9 kext files for the 10.4.10 ones? Did it stop the popping sounds?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not yet. Was hoping for a quicker response from Apple.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MiniMoe wrote:
Not yet. Was hoping for a quicker response from Apple.


What about changing/toggling the rate between 41100.0 Hz and 48000.0 Hz and reconfiguring your speakers in Audio Midi Setup? Don't ask me why, but I'm still pop free after playing around with these settings.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To update or not to update is the question...


My advice would be "No", IF you use your Mac Mini with a DVI => HDMI connection and/or the wireless network connection. There are a few threads on the Apple Discussion forums that people are identifying those two variables as causing issues after installing the 10.4.10 OS upgrade.

Here's one of them:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4781042&#4781042

For me, it now takes 20 minutes to boot. Temporary workarounds are:
- turning off wireless before rebooting
- disconnecting the DVI => HDMI cable before rebooting

Hope Apple releases a fix soon - this is the first issue I've had with their OS upgrades - seems that they didn't test this one too thoroughly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not yet. Was hoping for a quicker response from Apple.


What about changing/toggling the rate between 41100.0 Hz and 48000.0 Hz and reconfiguring your speakers in Audio Midi Setup? Don't ask me why, but I'm still pop free after playing around with these settings.


I have not tried that (and I think you meant 44100), but will tomorrow. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have not tried that (and I think you meant 44100), but will tomorrow. Thanks.


Yeah, my bad. I would give it a try. You have nothing to lose.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, changing the frequency in Audio Midi setup didn't remove the pops from my PowerBook.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortunately, changing the frequency in Audio Midi setup didn't remove the pops from my PowerBook.


Oh well, I guess it was worth a shot. Is it possible to re-apply the speaker configuration on a Apple notebook? I did that as well. I'm actually surprised that you are having this problem with a PowerBook. Most of these pops seem to be happening with Intel-based Macs. I hope you or Apple can get it fixed. Good luck! Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rightondamark, I'm not sure what you mean by "re-apply the speaker configuration on a Apple notebook." If you mean reinstalling the supposedly offending kext files from 10.4.9, I think it would be possible, but I'm not anxious to do it lest I mess up something else in the process. The pops are annoying because I know they're there, but not so annoying as to force me to do anything beyond an easy fix (like changing the Midi setting). Barring something like that, I'll wait for Apple to issue something official.
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