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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Front Row waaaay toooo sloooow!!!! Reply with quote

Hi All, recently front row has slowed down to become totally unusable. I have never been that impressed with FR because it was always quite slow but now it has become unusable.

It launches fine from eyetv and I can select the movie/music/dvd/photo functions ok but from there on it basically freezes. (And might I add, often intermitantly eyetv will "un pause" in the back ground causing me to have to exit FR to re-pause eyetv to start over, this takes 15 mins just to exit FR!!)

Everyone on here talks about tetrabytes of movies/tv shows music etc and all I have is my built in 80G HDD with 25G spare, and I cant even navigate this?

Put it this way, I selected Movies, then hit the down button on the remote 4 times to get to TV shows and it is still there in the time it has taken me to go to my iMac, bring up this page (I am on dial up right now arrgghh!) and post this msg, yet FR has still not moved! Oh, there it goes, I have now hit the play button...thinking..... thinking.... ok that wasn't too bad, 17seconds, now move down 2 spots to Weeds (I only have 5 shows saved) and, well lets see....

OK I'm back, I waited 12mins and thought I might have a shower, I have come back and it has finally moved down the 2 spots to Weeds.

This is crazy! I think I have stuck up for my mini enough from the taunts from my wife, but I am begining to think it's not worth it.

Are you all seriously using you mini's successfully as HTPC with out these issues??

Are we kidding ourselves just for the cool factor?

About to give up on the mini and go with an XBox or something!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use FrontRow as my primary HTPC application, along with EyeTV. I have 2 external drives for music and videos. I had experienced a few FR delays, but have optimized my system to get the best performance out of it.

I think we'll need a few more details regarding your system. So I have a few questions for you...

1. Can you tell us the specs of your mini (PPC, Intel, Speed, Ram, etc)
2. What about specs of your 25GB (External, Network, USB FireWire, Speed)
3. Where are your movies stored. (on the 80GB or 25GB?)

In the mean time have you tried clearing your FrontRow cache and preferences?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar problem once which was fixed by checking I had all the correct players so that I could play all the files that FR was accessing. Once I had flip4mac (that was all I needed) it went fine, apart frmo my remote battery dying haha!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dirtychinchilla"]I had a similar problem once which was fixed by checking I had all the correct players so that I could play all the files that FR was accessing. Once I had flip4mac (that was all I needed) it went fine, apart frmo my remote battery dying haha![/quote]

Even with some codecs in place preview times can be quite lengthy. Flip4Mac for instance is quite slow at showing quicktime previews in the finder, and loading them to play.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, my system specs are:

1.66 core duo mini
1.25G Ram (1G and 256MB both DDR2 SDRAM @ 667MHz)
Internal 80G HDD (Fujitsu)

Pretty much stock standard 1.66Ghz Intel mini with a Ram upgrade (done by apple), sorry for the confusion, I don't have any external drive, I have 25G unused on my internal.

All I have on it are 20 or so 350MB files for TV shows sorted into 5 separate folders (5 different shows) These files are added to itunes for cataloging using "movie2itunes" script.

I then have about 40 x 700MB-1.4G movies in my movie directory in 2 folders, unwatched and Kids (for the wiggles/playschool etc)

I don't have a single song file or photo on it (all accessed via sharing)

I have flip4mac, perian and AC3 audio codecs as QT plugins

And that pretty much sums it up. Oh, running 10.4.9

I just don't understand how when I run this purely as a HTPC only, as lean as I can, no 3rd party apps with no more then 60G stored on it and It really is unuseable, I would hate to try and use eyetv for HDTV if it can't even just navigate a few 700MB files!

Oh the other thing I forgot to mention last night, often when I exit FR it goes back to finder with itunes as the frontmost window (after playing a TV show catalogued with itunes) so I have to get up find the mouse and click on the eytv window to bring it to the front so I can watch TV, this seems to have happend alot more often since the new itunes update 7.1.1 (5)

HEEEELLLLPPPPP!!!

(BTW thank you everyone, I just love this forum!)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend this to someone else here, but it didn't work for him. It might be worth a shot for you. Try deleting the ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.frontrow.plist file and ~/Library/Caches/Front Row/. This can sometimes clear up strange behavior in Front Row.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any artwork installed for your music/movies? I've noticed that overly-large artwork that comes from external sources can slow down front row (and Apple TV) immensely.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ha, I did have pretty icons for each folder for the tv shows (ie a Lost icon for the lost folder, 24 icons for 24 etc) I have removed all of these and it seems to be a little bit better, certainly not fixed but better.

I trashed the prefs and cache, didn't do much at all.

I have managed to trace it down to only the movies catagory. Music, photos and DVD are fine, still takes forever to exit FR but navigation in the other catagories is fine.

I don't know if it had something to do with trashing the prefs but now every time I exit FR itunes is front most so I have to get up and select eyetv everytime, bugger!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I think the problems you are experiencing is with the access speed of the internal hard drive. 5400 is great for laptops, but really isn't the greatest for a media center, especially with EyeTV keeping its data store on the drive as well.

Have you noticed any speed difference if you have EyeTV closed?

I originally had a similar slow speeds until I moved my movies and eyetv data store to an external drive.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi shane, yeah I was leaning towards that conculsion as well. With a bit of googling I found a guys in Australia writting a scathing review of the eyetv diversity (what I have) and he mentioned that it was poison for his FR performance, he then went on to say thing improved when he moved his data storeage to the external and left the eyetv to write onto the internal.

Oh well, guess I will have to keep hasseling the wife for an external drive.

Thx again everyone for you help, I will just keep waiting for a FR 2 and eyetv 3, I am sure with these 2 updates a lot of the buggy performance will be fixed

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Keep your eyes open on ebay. You can pick up an enclosure for pretty cheap especially if you don't mind it not matching. And any old 7200rpm drive to match the enclosure.

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