Opera 8.02 with BitTorrent

castaway · Senior Member Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 465 Location: UK

Has anyone downloaded the Opera 8.02 beta on their mini? How are the BitTorrent features working?

http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=96020

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

On my old Windoze box, Bit Torrent planted all sorts of Spyware B.S. on my system.

For that reason alone, I shy away from anything having to do with BT.

I don't know what it does on a Mac........

iMav · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:

Susurrus · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject:

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

I had installed BT on my old Windows box, and when I ran a couple of Spyware cleaners, there were things ALL OVER the place....farming tools, redirectors, among other things.

Susurrus · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject:

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

No porn. No warez. No music. I used it to for game demos.

Ask yourself WHY do you need a so called "frontend" to download files?

Hmmmm.....?

So maybe they can sneak things in on you? Track where you go? Just maybe?

Otherwise. what is its true purpose?

I am suspicious of any crap like BT.

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

This is from THEIR terms of use page:

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What information does BitTorrent collect and how does BitTorrent use it?

Gathering and Use of Anonymous Information

Each time a visitor comes to a Site, we collect some limited information that your browser makes available whenever you visit a website to improve the overall quality of the online experience, including product monitoring, product improvement, and targeted advertising. This information includes your Internet Protocol address, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your query and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser.

In addition to collecting these types of information, BitTorrent collects aggregate queries for internal reporting and targeted advertising. We also count, track, and aggregate the visitor's activity into our analysis of general traffic flows at our sites (e.g. tracking where traffic comes from, how traffic flows within the Sites, etc.). To these ends, we may merge information about you into group data, which may then be shared on an aggregated basis with our advertisers; but BitTorrent will not disclose your individual identity or personal data without your permission.

In the event that you provide us with answers to voluntary survey questions, we may present this information to our advertisers and partners, in the form of grouped statistics compiled from our users' answers to such questions.

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Sure as hell sounds like Spyware to me.

aristobrat · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:23 am Post subject:

aristobrat · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:26 am Post subject:

FWIW..

http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html#spyware

Susurrus · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:40 am Post subject:

I use Azureus as a BT frontend and it's totally free of malware. I don't know where you pulled that Terms of Service from, but it's not BT's and Azureus doesn't have a ToS.

I also agree with Atistobrat in that it sounds like they are culling information from their server logs. This is not unusual and doesn't actually affect your computer.
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RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

http://www.bittorrent.com/tos.html

That is from THEIR website.

You guys are WAY too trusting.........

Read the part where it says:

"To improve the overall quality of the onlne experience".

I can make my own decisions on the quality of my own online "experience" and not feed information to someone who knows what's "best" for me.

No BT for me. I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in it for me.

What's in it for YOU?

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

As for it being Spyware free, maybe its just on Windows. On my old PC, when I ran AdAware and Spyhunter, they both came up with files that were connected to BT. Harmless? Maybe......but maybe not.........either way, I didn't like the fact that they were there.

Susurrus · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject:

RogerC · Junior Member Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 43

Try here:

Same site, different page.

http://www.bittorrent.com/privacy.html

That is where I got the quote in my post earlier about the ONLINE EXPERIENCE.

Regardless, I couldn't begin to see anything BT would offer that would be of any benefit for ME. My downloads are blazingly fast with cable modem, as is.

And.....sites that require proprietary "front ends" to download anything, are highly suspect, in my opinion. Blizzard really does that?

Nothing personal, but I think you are being quite naive, if you think its for OUR GOOD that anyone tracks ANYTHING that we do on the internet.


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