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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Why are Apple displays so expensive!? Reply with quote

I have a question that has been bothering me for some time now...Why are Apple displays so incredibly expensive!?

If you look at the actual tech specs they are terrible compared to other monitors that cost less than half the price.

I personally would never buy one. Granted, they are beautiful but the refresh rate and contrast ratio is piss-poor compared to an acer or LG monitor(not all of their models have great specs)

Basically my question is why buy an 20" Apple display for $699 with a 16ms refresh rate and a 400:1 contrast ratio when you could get an 20" WS Acer display with 5ms response time and approx 3000:1 contrast ratio for around $275 - $300?

Just curious,
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When buying my monitor I thought the same. So... I matched the specs or bettered them on a model that was half the price. I think many people want one stop shopping with their Apple products. They figure that why look else where when Apple is offering me a quality product right here with the rest of my gear.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Aluminum design, built in hub, 1 single cable for power and built in hub, color accuracy, backlighting, touch sensitive buttons, sealed enclosure
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, but I wouldn't care how pretty or gimmicky my MacBook was if it wasn't a beast when it came to the specs.

Again, the monitor is pretty, but the specs aren't. Plus I don't really like the monitor cable/ power cable all in one as it puts more of a strain on the power supply in the Mac itself as opposed to being self powered like other displays.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]color accuracy[/quote]

Big plus considering the cost of calibrators.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cable plugs into it's own power. Apple just took the liberty of running a USB and firewire cable along with it.

I pointed out differences that are not pretty or gimmicky, they are all design features that increase production cost. You can compare specs all you want. Apple typically does not overstate their specs. Personally I think they are well priced.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="TonyMontana"][quote]color accuracy[/quote]

Big plus considering the cost of calibrators.[/quote]

I have found the colour accuracy on Apple displays not to be all that great for the price, granted, they are good, but not as much better as their price tag would indicate. Just my (fairly limited, admittedly) experience. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this just goes to show you, Apple has not updated their Apple Cinema Display line in over two years - they are overdue for an update.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the technologies of the display changes significantly like LED back lighting. I think the current displays are just fine. I'm 100% satisfied with mine. People get too caught up in the specs.

Part of the reason I like Apple is they tend to do this right the first time and the products have a long useful life.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit Bill,

I admit the color accuracy is a very nice feature and well worth a little extra dough. I still don't see the point in sealed aluminum housing if it is going to drive the price up so much. Don't get me wrong either I do like the displays, I just wish Apple would update them with higher specs so that those of us that use our Macs for things like watching movies or playing modern games could get the most out of our experience. Admittedly if these displays were just used for graphic design/ minipulation then they would be perfect, but there are many cases where a high refresh rate is essential.

P.S. - My apologies for misunderstanding your point about the power/hub cable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True Bandit Bill,

I feel about the same way about Apple, it's just that I'm really anal about things like what I stated earlier because I can tell a huge difference when gaming and viewing fast paced films.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Bill,

Have you read anything about the new technology that should be in use before too long in LCD's? Instead of the usual back lighting, the LCD will be lit using I believe Carbon nanotubes or something like that. Instead of lighting the display from the bezel, the new technology will actually light each pixel independently of one another. I've read that the back lighting accounts for almost one third the over price of most LCD's and this, for some reason, is supposed to be much cheaper to manufacture. Sorry if I sound ignorant on the subject. I read about this a while ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danrel have you played games or watched high speed films on a ACD, or are you just going by the specs? I personally don't play games but any movies and TV shows that I have watched look real good to me.

Sure it will be nice to see updates to the displays, but expect the prices to jump up a little.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not games, but I have noticed a little ghosting during action films.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit Bill,

I'm not trying to start an argument here, I was just stating my opinion on the displays and asking for others views on them. If you are happy with yours then that is great. I'm just saying that I personally would opt for something else. That's all.
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