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I've removed Leopard for a second time

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: I've removed Leopard for a second time Reply with quote

I've removed Leopard from my mini for a second time. The graphics update seemed to fix some animations but the dock just isn't as smooth. These are superficial issues however.

I'm having a hard time with the look of Leopard as well. I find app windows to be too dark, the white menus are too harsh in contrast to the windows. Apps that I use don't run. iMovie 08 starts, but a window never appears. I reinstalled it, installed the update and it worked once, never to return again. Many apps crash at random, Thunderbird, iTerm and Firefox crash. Mythfrontend just doesn't start. Some of these are just app compatibility issues but Thunderbird....Firefox? Come on.

I also find Leopard to be slower on boot and just in general. It lacks snap and the animations contribute to this. Dock icons stick and skip animation frames. I run out of memory quicker using Leopard. This is "fixable" with some more ram but it is still disappointing.

While I understand that new features require more resources, there are some design items I can't help but dislike. All-in-all, Leopard isn't right for me and it doesn't seem to be right for the current mini's hardware. I love the Mac experience and I hope newer machines I purchase in the future give me a better Leopard experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: I've removed Leopard for a second time Reply with quote

miniconvert wrote:
I've removed Leopard from my mini for a second time. The graphics update seemed to fix some animations but the dock just isn't as smooth. These are superficial issues however.

I'm having a hard time with the look of Leopard as well. I find app windows to be too dark, the white menus are too harsh in contrast to the windows. Apps that I use don't run. iMovie 08 starts, but a window never appears. I reinstalled it, installed the update and it worked once, never to return again. Many apps crash at random, Thunderbird, iTerm and Firefox crash. Mythfrontend just doesn't start. Some of these are just app compatibility issues but Thunderbird....Firefox? Come on.

I also find Leopard to be slower on boot and just in general. It lacks snap and the animations contribute to this. Dock icons stick and skip animation frames. I run out of memory quicker using Leopard. This is "fixable" with some more ram but it is still disappointing.

While I understand that new features require more resources, there are some design items I can't help but dislike. All-in-all, Leopard isn't right for me and it doesn't seem to be right for the current mini's hardware. I love the Mac experience and I hope newer machines I purchase in the future give me a better Leopard experience.


Odd, I have the same set up as you and all those apps, aside from Mythfrontend, run very well. Did you have a lot of apps running in the background or minimized thats causing all your slowdowns?? Had you installed all the OS updates? To me it just sounds like something else is at the root of your problems beyond the OS though.

Also, regarding the windows being too dark and the menu's too bright, have you correctly calibrated your display? It may be your brightness and contrast are way off base of what they should be? Apple hasn't made their reputation putting out hard to look at interfaces by any means and Leopard appears fine on all my calibrated displays... Though I am glad they chose to let us disable the transparent menu system, not sure what they were thinking there.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't calibrated my display, but the same setup is pleasing while using Tiger on the same system and display. Good point though, I could run through the simple calibration again.

I was completely up2date with all of the Leopard updates and I did an archive and install when I installed it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not on your own Miniconvert. 10.5.2 solved the problems that I had with Leopard, but I'm still a big fan of Tiger and am happy to leave my Mini "un-upgraded".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I now have a copy of Leopard for my iMac, I've stuck with running Tiger on it.

I'm going to use the MBP for a few weeks and see how I like Leopard before letting the Leopard disk near my Tiger installation. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same setup as you, though with 2GB of memory. I have none of the issues that you speak of, so I would guess that the problem lies somewhere else than just "that's how Leopard runs". I have an iBook running Tiger, so I have been able to make a pretty good side by side comparison, and I have to say, I REALLY like Leopard better. Not that Tiger is bad or anything, but Leopard is just freakin' slick. Unfortunately, I can't offer any suggestions as to why you may be having problems, other than maybe you need more memory? My wife upgraded to leopard on her G5 iMac, running only 1GB, and it seems to have a few issues, so that's my guess.
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