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landofdarisinsun
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Mini PC Reply with quote

I am thinking about buying a Mac Mini Exclamation I am waiting for it to come back to apple's refurb site or a good deal on eBay. Laughing

My question is, has anyone thought of or have a Mini PC with OSx86? It seems to be a good idea, no? It is much cheaper and easily expandable. What are your opinions Question
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much cheaper?

When I was looking at a Hackintosh PC, only the expensive mobo was working reliably and so full up it wasn't any cheaper than a mini. And the sound didn't quite work. And the ethernet would work, but wouldn't show up properly. And one day Apple is going to shut them all down (maybe).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: no Reply with quote

First of all OSx86 is actually illegal, no one has been punished yet though, but it's a matter of morals to some. Also, the AOpen mini PC has build quality issues from review I've read.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: no Reply with quote

dungeon92 wrote:
First of all OSx86 is actually illegal


That is debatable, certainly here in Europe - if you own a (licence for a) legitimate copy of OSX which you aren't using elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also in the US it's not illegal in a criminal sense, but it does violate the EULA, which puts a user in the realm of civil liability.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: no Reply with quote

dungeon92 wrote:
First of all OSx86 is actually illegal, no one has been punished yet though, but it's a matter of morals to some. Also, the AOpen mini PC has build quality issues from review I've read.


God help us when corporations can tell us what is moral or not!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: no Reply with quote

opensky42 wrote:

God help us when corporations can tell us what is moral or not!

Morals, it's why I refuse to use OSx86, if you admire a product you are only hurting its future by not paying for it legally, I wish I could nuke all HDD's with OSx86 installed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: no Reply with quote

dungeon92 wrote:

I wish I could nuke all HDD's with OSx86 installed.


And you talk about morals. LOL. Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside of EULA and moral standards, I just think running a hackintosh is more trouble than it's worth. You have to find just the right hardware and it might stop working with next update. You have to stay on top of the scene. In the end, OS X + the hardware is what makes it all so great. People have linked me to hardware that is similar in price to a mini, but it always lacked something and it was never as small.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside of EULA and moral standards, I just think running a hackintosh is more trouble than it's worth. You have to find just the right hardware and it might stop working with next update. You have to stay on top of the scene. In the end, OS X + the hardware is what makes it all so great. People have linked me to hardware that is similar in price to a mini, but it always lacked something and it was never as small.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't mean to start anything with you guys with the OSx86...

After doing some more researching, while not studying for my midterm, I found that customizing a mini PC with the specifications of a Mac Mini made the Mini cheaper. Also, with the OSx86, it is not reliable. So in conclusion, Mac Mini > Mini PC. But here is the new kicker... Should I get a Mac Mini or the iMac? Decisions decisions... I already have a 20" wide screen and anything so I guess the Mini is more economical, but then, I can always sell the screen and peripherals and get the iMac. The iMac does have better performance, but it doesn't have the cute factor like the Mini... LOL!

Why Mac Mini over iMac?

note: I do not do alot of gaming, but use internet, iTunes, other random apps at the same time. Also, I would like to be able to switch back and forth between Vista/XP and OSX. So, I guess the iMac would be better?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landofdarisinsun wrote:
note: I do not do alot of gaming, but use internet, iTunes, other random apps at the same time. Also, I would like to be able to switch back and forth between Vista/XP and OSX. So, I guess the iMac would be better?

For those uses, both the Mini and the iMac would be equally functional.

Personally, even though this is a Mini site, and I own a Mini, I urge people to buy an iMac if they can afford it. The cost difference isn't huge, particularly if you're considering the upper end Mac Mini plus a mouse & keyboard versus the 20" iMac. Performance wise, I think the iMac beats the Mini hands down. Faster and larger hard drive, dedicated video card, faster system bus, etc.

I think it depends on the situation though. I ended up with a Mini because I already had a keyboard, mouse and monitor, plus my uses were minimal, so I got a base model Mini. A friend of mine was recently given a Mini as a gift, and it was the upper end model Mini, and an Apple mouse & keyboard, and a Dell 20" display. It's certainly a nice setup, but her parents could have spent a whopping $100 more and purchased her the base model iMac and performance wise, it would have been a decent improvement.

However, there is something to be said about the flexibility of a Mini. You can use whatever monitor you want, as long as it's 1920x1200 or less. Some people like having the monitor separate from the machine, so if there's an issue with one or the other, they both don't require fixing. It's small enough to be somewhat portable, so if you have monitors in two locations, you can move the Mini around fairly easily.

There's no one easy choice, and if you're considering cost heavily, look at Apple's refurbished models. It complicates things even further in terms of deciding, but it offers some decent savings on some models.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: no Reply with quote

optikinescant wrote:
dungeon92 wrote:

I wish I could nuke all HDD's with OSx86 installed.


And you talk about morals. LOL. Shocked

I feel it to be an "equalization", if something is wrong and you could stop it wouldn't you? Also, for breaking the rules you must have some form of punishment right?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I did it all over again and I knew I was going to continue to use it, I would buy an iMac because the cost of the mini+the cost of a nice sized flat panel is just about the same as an iMac.
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