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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Why Does The Mac Mini Still Exist? Reply with quote

I like the style. I like the features. I don't like the price for the hardware received.

Apple doesn't update it often enough to keep it relevant. Is it even making a profit for Apple? Since they don't break down such numbers we can only guess that it is profitable.

Apple doesn't advertise it anymore so how can one even say the expensive Mini is an entry way into the Apple product line? They've got the iPhones for that and iPads too. The iPod Touch and other iPods are waning in sales. They too are overpriced.

So I wonder why does the Mac Mini still exist? How long without a refresh will it take for people to know that Apple is not making them anymore? Will stock run out and there will be no word from Apple admitting it is dead? Maybe the Apple store will stop posting them as available and that will be the signal.

How soon until an iPad is as powerful as a base Mac Mini? With the 64 bit iPhone out there now it shouldn't be too long.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything Apple sells makes a profit for Apple. Or else they would drop it like a hot rock.

Until an iOS device can run any software I can get for it, with out having to circumvent the OS, I have no interest. Until then it's not something I'm interested in, no matter how powerful it might be.

Apple only updates products when they feel the need to update them. Since most sales are towards laptops and tablets, that's where Apple focuses attention.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Why Does The Mac Mini Still Exist? Reply with quote

Smallwheels wrote:
I like the style. I like the features. I don't like the price for the hardware received.

Apple doesn't update it often enough to keep it relevant. Is it even making a profit for Apple? Since they don't break down such numbers we can only guess that it is profitable.

Apple doesn't advertise it anymore so how can one even say the expensive Mini is an entry way into the Apple product line? They've got the iPhones for that and iPads too. The iPod Touch and other iPods are waning in sales. They too are overpriced.

So I wonder why does the Mac Mini still exist? How long without a refresh will it take for people to know that Apple is not making them anymore? Will stock run out and there will be no word from Apple admitting it is dead? Maybe the Apple store will stop posting them as available and that will be the signal.

How soon until an iPad is as powerful as a base Mac Mini? With the 64 bit iPhone out there now it shouldn't be too long.

What do you think?
I think the MM is a dam good computer and better than any i pads.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Mac mini is a great computer and totally safe within the Apple hardware ecosystem.

Why?

1. Have you ever noticed how fast the refurbs sell out? The Mac mini is always in demand.

2. More often that not, it's the number one selling desktop on Amazon.com. Another sign of it selling well.

3. Server form factor and capabilities. It's the only one marketed in the lineup.

4. It's always been highly reviewed by users. There is a loyal fan base and comfort factor with this system. It has a known track record now.

5. It's still the cheapest way for "switchers' to try a Mac, while allowing Apple to make a nice profit.

6. The convergence between tablets running a mobile OS and desktop computers running a true desktop OS is a rough sell. Ask Microsoft how that is going with Windows 8. People still prefer to do actual work on a windowed desktop operating system. Plus, the tablet market is becoming saturated. It makes me think Netbooks.

7. The Mac mini has been called dead more than once. Guess what? So has the Mac Pro. I just think Apple takes their time with the iMac, Mac mini and Mac Pro when it come to updates. It's not their focus at the moment. The battleground is with iPads and iPhones. It's where ALL the profits are.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because its rock solid, kinda boring cause it works..I think there will always be a Mac Mini type
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac Minis are the only Macs I've ever owned or wanted. The iMac is overpriced and I want a larger screen. I use my 1080p 52" HDTV. I do not want a desktop Mac with a monitor attached to it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Why Does The Mac Mini Still Exist? Reply with quote

Smallwheels wrote:
I like the style. I like the features. I don't like the price for the hardware received.

Apple doesn't update it often enough to keep it relevant. Is it even making a profit for Apple? Since they don't break down such numbers we can only guess that it is profitable.

Apple doesn't advertise it anymore so how can one even say the expensive Mini is an entry way into the Apple product line? They've got the iPhones for that and iPads too. The iPod Touch and other iPods are waning in sales. They too are overpriced.

So I wonder why does the Mac Mini still exist? How long without a refresh will it take for people to know that Apple is not making them anymore? Will stock run out and there will be no word from Apple admitting it is dead? Maybe the Apple store will stop posting them as available and that will be the signal.

How soon until an iPad is as powerful as a base Mac Mini? With the 64 bit iPhone out there now it shouldn't be too long.

What do you think?


iPads have no storage and no connectivity when compared to a mac mini.

A mini can have a 2.5tb fusion drive. with a quad core cpu and 16gb ram,

It can connect to a 24tb promise fusion storage unit .

as of today most of us don't have a 4k tv. the 2012 quad core can handle a 1080 p screen with ease.

a mac mini can't do 2 things well game or handle a 4k screen.

a mac miniis not mobile to compare to an iPad is kind of pointless.

but if and when an ipad can store 2.5 tb and drive a 1080p tv it will be okay.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Why Does The Mac Mini Still Exist? Reply with quote

Smallwheels wrote:
I like the style. I like the features. I don't like the price for the hardware received.

Apple doesn't update it often enough to keep it relevant. Is it even making a profit for Apple? Since they don't break down such numbers we can only guess that it is profitable.

Apple doesn't advertise it anymore so how can one even say the expensive Mini is an entry way into the Apple product line? They've got the iPhones for that and iPads too. The iPod Touch and other iPods are waning in sales. They too are overpriced.

So I wonder why does the Mac Mini still exist? How long without a refresh will it take for people to know that Apple is not making them anymore? Will stock run out and there will be no word from Apple admitting it is dead? Maybe the Apple store will stop posting them as available and that will be the signal.

How soon until an iPad is as powerful as a base Mac Mini? With the 64 bit iPhone out there now it shouldn't be too long.

What do you think?
I think the i pad stinks! Overpriced and never worth the money they are charging for it.Not versatile at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Why Does The Mac Mini Still Exist? Reply with quote

marv777 wrote:
I think the i pad stinks! Overpriced and never worth the money they are charging for it.Not versatile at all.


Interesting. I find it very versatile and useful. Cost is in the eye of the beholder, but I haven't found it to be overpriced. It keeps me from having to take my laptop on travel, has great battery staying power and apps that keep me busily working without the laptop. Couldn't imagine work life without it at this point.

So, you're wrong! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Apple is holding back the Mac mini this time around to help booster early Mac Pro sales. They had an interesting take on this on the last episode of the MacBreak Weekly podcast. Episode #390.

http://twit.tv/show/macbreak-weekly/390
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grasshopper wrote:
I think Apple is holding back the Mac mini this time around to help booster early Mac Pro sales. They had an interesting take on this on the last episode of the MacBreak Weekly podcast. Episode #390.

http://twit.tv/show/macbreak-weekly/390

I can buy that overall theory. It's a shame though, cause in the end they are probably missing sales with those with a more limited budget. And the truth be told, an updated machine brings even more power to the table. Which is plenty of power for most users.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hate to see the Mini go away. I would be no way as satisfied with a 'desktop' Mac. I use mine connected to the living room HDTV so I'm not a 'desktop' user. If they drop it or significantly change it, I'll be shopping for a new Mini to last even tho I'm happy with my 2.3 i7 16GB Fusion MM.

I think the ongoing focus on ATV and merging iOS and OS could effect the Mini. the growth areas are non-desktop. I assume Mini is low margin compared to the iMacs. The Mini is the only Mac I've ever had or wanted...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gigaguy wrote:
Mac Minis are the only Macs I've ever owned or wanted. The iMac is overpriced and I want a larger screen. I use my 1080p 52" HDTV. I do not want a desktop Mac with a monitor attached to it.


That's exactly the reason why I'll always purchase them. Unlike iMacs, if something goes wrong with the monitor or the computer itself I won't be out >$1,200.00 USD plus tax. Switching from Windows to Mac in mid-2009 was an uphill battle (lack of games, finding a good replacement for MS Office, imperfections in the hardware [fan speeds not increasing when overheating]) but I got WAY more value out of the emergency $600.00 purchase than I imagined once I found alternatives. I'm definitely retiring the machine later this year but so far the upcoming 2014 Mac mini and 16GBs of third-party RAM is the only option that I care about regarding new hardware.

I think Mac mini (the form factor, the price point and the style) is fine as-is. It'd be a shame if the mini line was discontinued.
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gigaguy wrote:
Mac Minis are the only Macs I've ever owned or wanted. The iMac is overpriced and I want a larger screen. I use my 1080p 52" HDTV. I do not want a desktop Mac with a monitor attached to it.


That's exactly the reason why I'll always purchase them. Unlike iMacs, if something goes wrong with the monitor or the computer itself I won't be out >$1,200.00 USD plus tax. Switching from Windows to Mac in mid-2009 was an uphill battle (lack of games, finding a good replacement for MS Office, imperfections in the hardware [fan speeds not increasing when overheating]) but I got WAY more value out of the emergency $600.00 purchase than I imagined once I found alternatives. I'm definitely retiring the machine later this year but so far the upcoming 2014 Mac mini and 16GBs of third-party RAM is the only option that I care about regarding new hardware.

I think Mac mini (the form factor, the price point and the style) is fine as-is. It'd be a shame if the mini line was discontinued.
Don't worry it will still be around for some time to come.It is versatile and cheap to buy.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gigaguy wrote:
Mac Minis are the only Macs I've ever owned or wanted. The iMac is overpriced and I want a larger screen. I use my 1080p 52" HDTV. I do not want a desktop Mac with a monitor attached to it.


When I bought my first Mini back in 2010 I also purchased my LaCie 324 monitor. I just upgraded my Mini but my monitor is doing fine and I'm still very happy with it. I'd love to own a Mac Pro but that isn't in the cards right now and the Mini does what I need for the time being.
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