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philiparcario
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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: crucial to sell a 1tb ssd for 599 usd. |
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20130111131517_New_Micron_and_Crucial_M500_SSDs_Offer_960GB_Capacity_for_Under_600.html
http://www.storagereview.com/micron_and_crucial_m500_ssds_announced_with_up_to_960gb_capacity
this would be a step in the right direction.
on this note I just built a diy 1.5tb fusion in a 2.3 quad mac mini refurb.
I used a 512gb samsung 830 ssd with the stock 1tb hitachi. this mini is remarkable. geek benches 12000 plus which is the same as a 2012 quad mac pro. It is the best mini I have owned and truly has almost everything I would need in a computer.
I believe that the haswell mini will be the first mini to be 'perfect' for a HT. This ivy bridge is really close to perfect but the picture is short on my 1080 46 inch tv. I can still tell the difference between it and my i7-3770t pc that uses a hd7750 for a gpu.
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marv777
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: crucial to sell a 1tb ssd for 599 usd. |
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| philiparcario wrote: | http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20130111131517_New_Micron_and_Crucial_M500_SSDs_Offer_960GB_Capacity_for_Under_600.html
http://www.storagereview.com/micron_and_crucial_m500_ssds_announced_with_up_to_960gb_capacity
this would be a step in the right direction.
on this note I just built a diy 1.5tb fusion in a 2.3 quad mac mini refurb.
I used a 512gb samsung 830 ssd with the stock 1tb hitachi. this mini is remarkable. geek benches 12000 plus which is the same as a 2012 quad mac pro. It is the best mini I have owned and truly has almost everything I would need in a computer.
I believe that the haswell mini will be the first mini to be 'perfect' for a HT. This ivy bridge is really close to perfect but the picture is short on my 1080 46 inch tv. I can still tell the difference between it and my i7-3770t pc that uses a hd7750 for a gpu. |
Is there a real difference between Ivy and Sandy bridge and now Haswell ? |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: crucial to sell a 1tb ssd for 599 usd. |
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| philiparcario wrote: | | I believe that the haswell mini will be the first mini to be 'perfect' for a HT. This ivy bridge is really close to perfect but the picture is short on my 1080 46 inch tv. I can still tell the difference between it and my i7-3770t pc that uses a hd7750 for a gpu. |
While the rest is very interesting, I disagree with a new Mini GPU would be any better than even the HD3000 for a Home Theater. I repurposed my mid 2011 Mini and truthfully I embarassed by the complete overkill. If you argument is that the picture has issues I would argue that you need to calibrate it for your TV.
| marv777 wrote: | | Is there a real difference between Ivy and Sandy bridge and now Haswell ? |
Yes, speed.
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marv777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: crucial to sell a 1tb ssd for 599 usd. |
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| ez061111 wrote: | | philiparcario wrote: | | I believe that the haswell mini will be the first mini to be 'perfect' for a HT. This ivy bridge is really close to perfect but the picture is short on my 1080 46 inch tv. I can still tell the difference between it and my i7-3770t pc that uses a hd7750 for a gpu. |
While the rest is very interesting, I disagree with a new Mini GPU would be any better than even the HD3000 for a Home Theater. I repurposed my mid 2011 Mini and truthfully I embarassed by the complete overkill. If you argument is that the picture has issues I would argue that you need to calibrate it for your TV.
| marv777 wrote: | | Is there a real difference between Ivy and Sandy bridge and now Haswell ? |
Yes, speed. |
You mention speed in what way is this more important than if you are a plain computer user and not a avid video maker or composer? thanks |
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philiparcario
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well a faster computer may stream video better then a slow one.
(depends on your net connection) it also allows for multitasking.
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marv777
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: Connection |
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| philiparcario wrote: | well a faster computer may stream video better then a slow one.
(depends on your net connection) it also allows for multitasking. |
The whole key to this really is your ISP.You could have the most expensive mac to own with a poor connection it is a waste.thanks |
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That's awesome news. I can't believe how fast prices are coming down now. And, it's only going to get better moving forward.
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ez061111
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| philiparcario wrote: | well a faster computer may stream video better then a slow one.
(depends on your net connection) it also allows for multitasking. |
I've used Plex for years and have streamed video, rips of DVD and BD, and even my older 2009 2.26 C2D did an admirable job with HD. It just needed a nudge and until the 2012 version came I used the 2009 2.66 C2D server model with absolutley no issues. The only reason I continue to increase the power in the HTPC computer is simply because I replace the version of the one that I use for actual "work" every 2-3 years and the old work machine becomes redundant and sell the less powerful unit. But at this point I have officially moved into complete overkill for the purpose it currently serves.
For yucks I just expermented a little and transcoded and streamed 2 direct BD rips concurrently to an iPad and an iPhone and played a third BD rip straight to my TV via Plex HT. No dropped frames, no A/V sync issues or other quality complaints on the 2011 2.0 with HD3000. For giggles I tried streaming via 4G to the iPad to see if that made a difference; none. The temp on the mini was stable at ~70°C and the processor processor still had plenty of breathing room.
I'm comfortable with my assessment that I am currently in overkill for the HT purpose although I may eventually replace it with a faster unit when my "work" Mini goes out to pasture. But I can see little reason to purchase a faster machine for the purpose of enjoying media.
As far as streaming via the net, the bottleneck won't be the processor, it's going to be the ISP as both you and marv conclude.
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philiparcario
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what I have found comparing
the 2010 2.4 c2d
the 2011 2.3 dual
the 2012 2.5 dual and 2.3 quad and a i7 3770k with a hd7750 and a hd7970 for ht.
is not much difference in many cases of streaming. so much depends on the website and your connection. the only thing for sure is netflix is bit better with windows then apple osx. now if you about that it makes perfect sense as silverlight is a microsoft program so for it to run with a clearer picture and less problems makes sense.
the 2012 quad mini can competes with a 2010 quad mac pro in cpu work it scores 20 percent faster. it has faster ram 1600 vs 1333. as long as your work is cpu intensive not ram or gpu the mini wins an absolute impossibility to think that this increase in mini cpu happened in about 2 years 1 month.
I have found that the 2009 c2d with mods is still viable today. I am using a slower 2010 2.4 as a dvd/dvr/netflix kitchen computer with no issues just 1 mod 8gb ram. while not perfect it works for its use. I am a bit excited that the quad 2012 runs this nice with a diy fusion setup and I really want to build a 2013 with the new crucial m500 ssd plus a 1tb oem hdd as a fusion drive.
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2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd
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lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station |
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