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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Will a SATA 3 SSD plug into my Mac Mini 2007? Reply with quote

I was told a SATA 3 SSD connector is different than the connector in my 2007 Mac Mini SATA. Is that true?

I know whatever I put in the mini will be limited to 1.5/GB but I was thinking a faster one would be better if I decide to upgrade the mini later on. A supplier said the sata 3 connectors were not backward compatible like the SATA 2.

On another note, has anyone ever managed to get a ssd and hd in a mini?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:41 am    Post subject: SATA Compatibility Reply with quote

If your asking are the SATA I, II, III (1.5, 3 and 6 Gbit/s) plugs compatible,
my understanding is yes.
SATA 1.5, 3 and 6 are forward and backward compatible. However,
a SATA 6 Hard Drive on a SATA 1.5 Bus will work at SATA 1.5 speed.
A SATA 1.5 Hard Drive on a SATA 6 Speed Bus will work a SATA 1.5 Speed.
The slowest link in the SATA chain determines its speed. Understand,
most currently available Hard Drives work at a SATA 1.5 or 3 Gbit/s.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes a ssd and a hdd can be put into a 2007 or a 2009 mac mini for that matter even into 2010 and 2011 minis
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

philiparcario wrote:
yes a ssd and a hdd can be put into a 2007 or a 2009 mac mini for that matter even into 2010 and 2011 minis
Hi Philip!
Thats what I have in my 2011 mini. The stock HD and an SSD.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: SATA Compatibility Reply with quote

billb wrote:
If your asking are the SATA I, II, III (1.5, 3 and 6 Gbit/s) plugs compatible,
my understanding is yes.
SATA 1.5, 3 and 6 are forward and backward compatible. However,
a SATA 6 Hard Drive on a SATA 1.5 Bus will work at SATA 1.5 speed.
A SATA 1.5 Hard Drive on a SATA 6 Speed Bus will work a SATA 1.5 Speed.
The slowest link in the SATA chain determines its speed. Understand,
most currently available Hard Drives work at a SATA 1.5 or 3 Gbit/s.


Thanks billb. I picked up one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236. Should be backward compatible and forward to my next system. I got an optical bay carrier and will put my hd in it and the ssd in the drive bay.

The carrier converts the DVD player PATA connector to a SATA. This may slow down the hd but I'm not sure. At least it will make migration simple
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: SSD and HD In a mini Reply with quote

I did exactly that with the original
Intel mini. It worked great. I think
you'll be pleased.

BTW, your link wasn't a good link.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: SSD and HD In a mini Reply with quote

billb wrote:
I did exactly that with the original
Intel mini. It worked great. I think
you'll be pleased.

BTW, your link wasn't a good link.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236 it's a Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB ...$129.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: SATA Compatibility Reply with quote

michaelcly wrote:
The carrier converts the DVD player PATA connector to a SATA.
This may slow down the hd but I'm not sure. At least it will make migration simple
Yes, the PATA connection in my mini ran slower
than the SATA connection. Put your Original HD
in the PATA location and put your SSD in your
Original HD's location.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I put the hard drive in the DVD carrier and the ssd in the HD's place. Worked great...for a while. Today I noticed the HD was not showing up. I believe it's a connection problem because the Boot Camp partition does not show up.

Or, maybe it's because i used carbon copy cloner to clone the Mac partition to the SSD. When they're running together, could ther be some confusion?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: CCC Reply with quote

No, CCC does a Block Level clone. CCC isn't your problem.
Its likely the Optical-Hard Drive Adapter thats bad or rather
is flakey. Sounds like its working intermittently or it was
working at first and now not at all.

Were you using a ground strap when sticking your hands
inside of your mini? It could be that but its likely a bad
Optical-HD adapter.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: CCC Reply with quote

billb wrote:
No, CCC does a Block Level clone. CCC isn't your problem.
Its likely the Optical-Hard Drive Adapter thats bad or rather
is flakey. Sounds like its working intermittently or it was
working at first and now not at all.

Were you using a ground strap when sticking your hands
inside of your mini? It could be that but its likely a bad
Optical-HD adapter.


No, I did not use a strap Sad
The new ccc that I have has a new way to choose "block copy" in the prefs. I don't know if it was set or not. I'll pull it all apart again this weekend and check it out. I suspect bad connection in the new adapter.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: OptiBay / AMAZON Reply with quote

I've used 4 different Optical-HD Adapters.
Two inexpensive adapters were flaky one
inexpensive one was good and the 4th
expensive one was my favorite....go figure.
This inexpensive one should be reliable.
See reviews. BTW, I didn't know Amazon
sold them.

If anyone orders one from Amazon make sure its
IDE-SATA or whatever your situation requires.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect—I was just given a gift card from amazon. It says 9.5 mm...will that work in the 2007 case?

The one I bought was 12.7. I like the idea of the 9.5 for later upgrading in a laptop or newer mini.

Edited: Thought I would mention the SSD I got is fantastic. I can't realize its full potential in a sata port, but it seems well built and reliable. The OCZ petrol I returned was cheezy by comparison and it was DOA.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: OptiBay Thickness? Reply with quote

michaelcly wrote:
Perfect—I was just given a gift card from amazon. It says 9.5 mm...will that work in the 2007 case?

The one I bought was 12.7. I like the idea of the 9.5 for later upgrading in a laptop or newer mini.

Thanks
I would have bet money that any adapter fatter
than 9.5mm wouldn't fit. 12.7mm Optical Drives
as well as Adapters aren't supposed to fit. I would
get the 9.5 to be safe. It does limit the size of the
HD you can install, though. Philip Arcario may jump
in and verify the size of Optical/HD Adapter that'll
fit.

It just dawned on me, did you close up your mini
after you installed the Adapter with HD? If you did
that may have pinched your HD causing your problems.
If a platter that rotates is squished...it won't work.
It MAY be damaged.

Let us know.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first adapter/caddy I bought was 12.7 and is the size that ifixit.com sells for my model. But they want $59! Phew. I'm hoping the 9.5 will bolt-up. My HD is a Toshiba 500gb 7200rpm and is 9.3 tall.

I have a sata usb enclosure I can check it with to make sure I didn't damage it.
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