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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:04 am Post subject: VMware Fusion 4.1 Released [U] |
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VMware Fusion 4.1 Released
Saturday, November 19, 2011
Posted by: Staff
VMware has announced the release of Fusion 4.1, a major update of their virtualization software for Mac users. The big news with this update is the ability to run non-server versions of Leopard and Snow Leopard inside a virtual machine. It also brings improved animations, faster screen resizing, improved startup times, better graphics performance, support for Lion's full-screen mode, and numerous bug fixes. You can learn more about these bug fixes over here in change log. The VMware Fusion 4.1 update weighs in at 180MB and requires Mac OS X 10.6.7 or later.
Update: VMware is now claiming that the new license verification step found in Fusion 4.1, which allowed client versions of Snow Leopard and Leopard to be installed inside a virtual machine, was an only intended to check off on server editions of the software.
"VMware Fusion 4.1 was released late last week and includes many great improvements. One change was the introduction of a new license verification step for users to verify they are in compliance with the OS licensing terms.
When the license verification step was added in VMware Fusion 4.1 the server edition check was omitted. We are preparing an update."
http://www.123macmini.com/news/story/1751.html
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mdgm Senior Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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This is great news. So one can run PowerPC apps in a virtual machine now. Pretty cool. _________________ Laptop - 2007 Macbook 2.16Ghz, 2GB RAM 500GB 7200RPM HDD
HTPC - 2.0Ghz Mac Mini (Early 09), 120GB 5400 RPM HDD and 4GB RAM
Another Mini - 2.53Ghz Mac Mini (Late 09), 320GB 5400 RPM HDD and 4GB RAM
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OGN Veteran Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Great news, but I bet Apple comes down hard on VMware for this one. _________________ 2.4GHz MacBook Pro/4GB/320GB HD
2.26GHz Mac mini/4GB/500GB HD
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scooper Veteran Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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This is absolutely great cause I still like Office 2004 better than the newer versions. Now I have a way to run it again.  |
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Fox Veteran Member


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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| OGN wrote: | | Great news, but I bet Apple comes down hard on VMware for this one. |
Why should they? Why should they care if someone with a legitimate copy of SN runs it on Apple hardware in a virtual machine, especially if they're running it on Lion - i.e. one copy of SN running on one Apple machine. _________________ Mini 1: 2.3 ghz Core i5; 8 gb RAM, Corsair 240gb SSD, 500 gb Seagate XT
Mini 2: 2.26 ghz Core 2 duo, 8 gb RAM, 500 gb Seagate
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OGN Veteran Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: | | Why should they? Why should they care if someone with a legitimate copy of SN runs it on Apple hardware in a virtual machine, especially if they're running it on Lion - i.e. one copy of SN running on one Apple machine. |
They really shouldn't care, but the EULA (as it stands) says that you can only "install, use and run" one copy of Snow Leopard and Leopard on a single system at a time. Then again, users are prompted to check with the software's license agreement. Therefore, VMware is really shifting the legal burden to the end-user. They are just providing the platform. Oh well, it will be interesting to see how things plays out. Apple might just look the other way, but I sort of doubt it. They seem to be in such a suing mood these days. _________________ 2.4GHz MacBook Pro/4GB/320GB HD
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mdgm Senior Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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So long as they don't provide a solution to run a Mac OS X VM on non-Apple hardware I doubt Apple would sue. Apple resells both VMware Fusion and Parallels 7. Whilst apple doesn't produce its own virtualisation software it clearly values these products recognising that for many of its customers virtualisation software is a useful alternative to using BootCamp to run Windows. Now since people can run Snow Leopard as a VM it might reduce the number of complaints about the dropping of Rosetta and may mean that some who otherwise wouldn't update to new Macs. I reckon this move by VMWare is of benefit to Apple. _________________ Laptop - 2007 Macbook 2.16Ghz, 2GB RAM 500GB 7200RPM HDD
HTPC - 2.0Ghz Mac Mini (Early 09), 120GB 5400 RPM HDD and 4GB RAM
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Fox Veteran Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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FYI, you could run a VM of Snow Leopard client on VirtualBox long before VMware made this change in their software, and Apple never went after Oracle for this. I tried both, but was unable to make a smooth running version in VirtualBox. However, others have had better success with it. _________________ Mini 1: 2.3 ghz Core i5; 8 gb RAM, Corsair 240gb SSD, 500 gb Seagate XT
Mini 2: 2.26 ghz Core 2 duo, 8 gb RAM, 500 gb Seagate
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Texark Senior Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Apple should actually like this news. It opens Lion upgrades up to people that still need Rosetta for older software. So the upgrade path is totally smooth now. |
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Fox Veteran Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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The nice thing about Rosetta is that it is totally transparent to the user. Virtual OSX machines are quite good, but they're not transparent. For example, when I produce a scanned image with my PPC scanner software on my SL virtual machine, I have to copy the files onto the main drive through the shared folders feature. There is no drag and drop copying as in a virtual PC machine. Also, on several occasions I shut down the vm when I meant to close the scanner application, requiring a restart of the vm. Small problems that are nothing compared to not being able to use the application at all, but Rosetta is a real gem that I wish could be used on Lion. _________________ Mini 1: 2.3 ghz Core i5; 8 gb RAM, Corsair 240gb SSD, 500 gb Seagate XT
Mini 2: 2.26 ghz Core 2 duo, 8 gb RAM, 500 gb Seagate
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I don't miss Rosetta that much anymore because almost everything is Universal or Lion ready now. I know people have investments in older PPC software, but at what point do you move on? It's the past. So installing Snow Leopard or Leopard just seems like a waste of hard drive space to me. That being said, running Snow Leopard Server (which you could already do) makes way more sense. Because Lion Server is such a major disappointment at this point. _________________ 2011 Mac mini with 8GB of RAM
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Fox Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, it looks like the release of VMware Fusion without the server check was a mistake that is going to be rectified by an update, as noted here. _________________ Mini 1: 2.3 ghz Core i5; 8 gb RAM, Corsair 240gb SSD, 500 gb Seagate XT
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Texark Senior Member


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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: | | Unfortunately, it looks like the release of VMware Fusion without the server check was a mistake that is going to be rectified by an update, as noted here. |
I'm thinking they tested the limits and Apple responded. Now it's just an "error" with the update. |
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OGN Veteran Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm not really buying the comments from VMware. I bet they wanted to try, but Apple legal called them out. _________________ 2.4GHz MacBook Pro/4GB/320GB HD
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