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devo Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: Has Steve Jobs killed the music industry? |
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Check out this article.
http://gizmodo.com/#!5781888/bon-jovi-thinks-steve-jobs-personally-killed-the-music-industry
I hate to say, but I kinda agree with Bon Jovi. It used to be great going into record stores and stuff. Everything is so commercial and anal now. Buying music and syncing to your iPod, iPhone or iPad is cool, but something is just lost in the process. Its not really fun or social either. |
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Or try this link -> Bon Jovi is a dork.
Say there was never an MP3 or other type of convenient audio file. You still have the internet, and still have eCommerce. This would still lead to Amazon, CD Baby, and all the online music sales sites.
Of course if you go back farther, there was all the whining about CDs. Amazingly this whining continues today. With the resurgence of big old slabs of vinyl so that people can get that warm(but less accurate with every play due to the destructive nature of the whole LP system) sound, and hold those record jackets with their eyes closed.
So yeah, I'm guessing Bon Jovi loves getting those emails that say something like "Remember when for five cents you could..." Or maybe he forgot where his local music stores are?
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cheef Senior Member


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I bet he's not complaining about Bon Jovi's iTunes income lining his pockets, though. _________________ iPhone 4 16GB
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philiparcario Veteran Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Once you can put 100,000 songs on one hdd.
Once you can do it for free (not legal but come on)
The music industry became all about concerts. Records in a vain attempt to prevent recording them and losing that "warm sound"
If you want to blame Jobs fine but Gates would have done it. Napster started the trend.
Before Napster cd copiers existed.
Sony had them in the 90's.
If you really want to place the blame it goes back to Philips for building the first CD player.
Cassette tapes were not that good So many good free copies were not easy to do.
Once cd's came out recorded music sales were doomed. At first making the copies was not cheap but hey what does a blank cd cost now. _________________ 2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
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Bandit Bill Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Has Steve Jobs killed the music industry? |
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| devo wrote: | | something is just lost in the process. Its not really fun or social either. |
I agree... before you used to borrow your friends music, or discuss which albums you had. If you were visiting their house you'd ask to check out their collection.
People took pride in their collections, it was a huge reflection on who they were.
All this has been lost. |
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dungeon92 Veteran Member


Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 2403 Location: St. Louis/Rolla, MO
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Has Steve Jobs killed the music industry? |
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| Bandit Bill wrote: | | devo wrote: | | something is just lost in the process. Its not really fun or social either. |
I agree... before you used to borrow your friends music, or discuss which albums you had. If you were visiting their house you'd ask to check out their collection.
People took pride in their collections, it was a huge reflection on who they were.
All this has been lost. |
I don't think that's the case so much, I know my collection tends to lead to discussion as it has such much foreign music in it. _________________ "You must control your future by taking command of your present, and fixing and learning from your past."
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ghostdawg Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Has Steve Jobs killed the music industry? |
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| Bandit Bill wrote: | | devo wrote: | | something is just lost in the process. Its not really fun or social either. |
I agree... before you used to borrow your friends music, or discuss which albums you had. If you were visiting their house you'd ask to check out their collection.
People took pride in their collections, it was a huge reflection on who they were.
All this has been lost. |
Yes, I remember and liked those days with vinyl and the kool album covers that came with some, even posters inside. I also had a nice collection for awhile.
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Bandit Bill Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: Has Steve Jobs killed the music industry? |
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| dungeon92 wrote: | | Bandit Bill wrote: | | devo wrote: | | something is just lost in the process. Its not really fun or social either. |
I agree... before you used to borrow your friends music, or discuss which albums you had. If you were visiting their house you'd ask to check out their collection.
People took pride in their collections, it was a huge reflection on who they were.
All this has been lost. |
I don't think that's the case so much, I know my collection tends to lead to discussion as it has such much foreign music in it. |
Dungeon, I can't fully relate to where you are coming from, but I still respect it... that's cool. Similarly I can't expect you to fully relate to holding a Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti album in your hands for the first time. |
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Cypher Veteran Member


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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it's Steve Jobs whose killed it it happened well before MP3's came along. I remember the vinyl days fondly, the feel and smell of the 12" vinyl record and it's fold out cover of art work including notes and the separate sleeve for the record which was usually a pig to get back inside the cardboard cover. CD's were the start of the demise, ok they may have been more robust and with a cleaner no pop sound but they never gave the same feeling as a traditional vinyl record. Mp3's have just taken this to the next level by removing the physical media completely.
The publishing industry is currently in the same position with a huge take up in eBook readers thanks it the likes of the Amazon's Kindle, I love the smell and feel of a new book, although I'm not so keen on second hand ones. However I have to say I do prefer reading on the Kindle than I do a physical book. Although having a Kindle on a shelf won't quite have the same appeal as a bookcase for of books  _________________ Phil
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Bandit Bill Veteran Member


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| Cypher wrote: | I have to say I do prefer reading on the Kindle than I do a physical book. Although having a Kindle on a shelf won't quite have the same appeal as a bookcase for of books  |
That's a good analogy.
I'm just imagining someone swearing on an eBible It just doesn't have the same impact.
Even even if people are reading more than ever. The book stores/libraries/news stands etc. are feeling the effects as well.
We can't hold any one person accountable. It's just progression. |
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