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curt Veteran Member


Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 1411 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: No more Front Row in Lion |
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9 to 5 Mac is saying that Front Row might be removed from Lion when it's released. I don't think many of us are really using it anymore (Boxee user myself), but it's kind of sad. I think Apple could have done something really special with Front Row, but everything obviously went towards the Apple TV. Then again, anything new in Front Row would have been tied to iTunes. That was sort of the short fall to begin with. Any thoughts?
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 3012 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Apple already dropped the remote, so I'm not really too surprised about this. However, I really wouldn't put any stock into what is included, or not included, in a developers release. I would also imagine that the point of this developers release is to get the new stuff into the developers hands to start making stuff for it.
SC _________________ Grumpy old man of computing.
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scooper Veteran Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| If true, that sucks cause I still like using Front Row for music. |
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dungeon92 Veteran Member


Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 2403 Location: St. Louis/Rolla, MO
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithcraft wrote: | Apple already dropped the remote, so I'm not really too surprised about this. However, I really wouldn't put any stock into what is included, or not included, in a developers release. I would also imagine that the point of this developers release is to get the new stuff into the developers hands to start making stuff for it.
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When did they drop the remote? They just made it an upgrade feature, that I bought a $10 universal remote that has the same functionality for. _________________ "You must control your future by taking command of your present, and fixing and learning from your past."
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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They didn't make it an upgrade feature. I just checked the Apple store and it's not even in the accessories list for a 2.66GHz mini when you are checking out. You have to search for it. And who is going to pay $20 for the new Apple remote when you are dropping a grand on a computer?
SC _________________ Grumpy old man of computing.
[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8
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tales Veteran Member


Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 937 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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It is listed in the accessories for the 2.4 mini.
$20 for a remote when dropping a grand on a rig that doesn't come with a mouse or keyboard doesn't seem so bad  _________________ iMac 3.06ghz 27" 4gb ram C2D 1TB/LaCie d2 1T
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dungeon92 Veteran Member


Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 2403 Location: St. Louis/Rolla, MO
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithcraft wrote: | They didn't make it an upgrade feature. I just checked the Apple store and it's not even in the accessories list for a 2.66GHz mini when you are checking out. You have to search for it. And who is going to pay $20 for the new Apple remote when you are dropping a grand on a computer?
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It's listed in the BTO for the Mac mini and the new MacBook Pro. _________________ "You must control your future by taking command of your present, and fixing and learning from your past."
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Yep, it's still $20 on a $1200 computer, and it's still something that has to be ordered as an extra item. It is not included by default with the computer. It's not even listed with the 12 core MacPro.
So, overall I'm not sure what your point is dungeon92. Apple no longer includes the remote with any computer, from the cheapest mini to the most expensive MacPro. Many of the computers don't even list it as an accessory.
If your point is that Apple still makes a remote that people can purchase in addition to the remote, then what does that have to do with FrontRow maybe/maybe not being in Lion?
My point remains that Apple no longer includes the remote and doesn't even mention it as a viable accessory with many of the computers it sells. To this end, the possible obsolescence of FrontRow comes as no surprise to me.
SC _________________ Grumpy old man of computing.
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Bandit Bill Veteran Member


Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 5793 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| It will be interesting to see which way Apple is going with regard to home theater and the mini. It doesn't make much sense to incorporate a HDMI port and a slim line design, then move away from home theater. |
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curt Veteran Member


Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 1411 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Bandit Bill wrote: | | It will be interesting to see which way Apple is going with regard to home theater and the mini. It doesn't make much sense to incorporate a HDMI port and a slim line design, then move away from home theater. |
It doesn't, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Then again, they really aren't really promoting Front Row when it comes to using HDMI with the Mac mini anymore. They are sort of just promoting iTunes as the front and back end for viewing movies and listening to music. Maybe I'm reading into it wrong though, who knows. It's always hard guessing what Apple is going to do next.
| Quote: | | It’s easy to connect Mac mini to the biggest screen in the house — your HDTV — courtesy of a built-in HDMI port. Plug in one HDMI cable and start enjoying content on your Mac mini in brilliant HD. Like movies and TV shows from iTunes, the Internet, and your photo library. There’s also a handy control that lets you easily adjust the output on Mac mini to fill even the biggest HDTV screen. And when you just want to listen to music, you can play your entire iTunes collection through your home entertainment center, or stream it to a set of speakers in any room via an AirPort Express Base Station. |
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