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Front Row 1.0.1 on All Macs HOW-TO

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Front Row 1.0.1 on All Macs HOW-TO Reply with quote

I found this earlier today. It's a little app that someone has made to enable front row after installing the 1.0.1 update that Apple released a few days ago. This works like a dream! (This tutorial also includes how to get around the 'you must have an iMac G5' nag screen.)

Grab Front Row Enabler, Pacifist and the 1.0.1 update here: http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/19947

It can be a little confusing so here is a step by step.

0. Remove any previous instances of Front Row from your system.
1. Install Pacifist
2. Mount Front Row 1.0.1 from Apple.
3. Use Pacifist to install the pack from apple FROM THE DISK IMAGE that launches when you mount the .dmg. click "open package" and then "Install" this is going to ask your permisison to replace alot of stuff, so it may be a good idea to back things up.
4. Run Front Row Enabler FROM THE DISK IMAGE ... do not drag this to your desktop!
5. Reboot
6. Open Keyboard & Mouse settings in your System Prefs and Make sure you see Front Row under "Keyboard Shortcuts" at the bottom
7. Press Cmd+Esc and you should be set.

This new update to Front Row Enables DVD's and is by and large more stable than our previous "hack" -- because this is NOT a hack it is the official Front Row app from Apple!

Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all for getting FrontRow on Mac Mini's as its the way it should be done, but it still amazed me how many people are so open in where they got and how they go Frontrow running on there machines, even posting screengrabs.

At the end of the day your stealing the software and I really wouldn''t be so open about what you have done. (this isn't directed at anyone inparticular). If you get caught they only have to look through threads on this board and its all the evidence they need.

Just my 2p worth. Speaking from past experience of having a previous collegue busted for bragging about how they had got a hacked copy of MS-Office a couple of years ago.

Just not worth it in my opinion.

Same with people being "I got Mac OSx running on my Intel box!" Er....you stole it you know? Apple should offer a $50 tip-off fee for everyone you tipoff that runs Mac OSx / FrontRow illegally to help crack down on piracy. I could make thousands this way and I think it would be a pretty good deterant from tall this sort of stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree with you philosophically. My partner is an artist, so we have a vested interest in understanding the concept of intellectual property. And my machine doesn't have a byte of bootlegged software. Heck, I've even paid for a lot of my shareware Wink Bottom line, don't steal software!

That said, my sense is that Apple knows exactly what they are doing with Front Row and, to a degree, even encourages it. Let's imagine for a second that they had released Front Row as a general program for use on all Macs, which they could have done in conjunction with a backwards-compatible hardware remote control. What's the headline for that story? I'm afraid it would have been "Look at all the things I can't do with this software!"

Whereas if they officially release it for one computer only but make sure that it can run on everything anyway, you have every Apple evangelist, fanboy, and hacker gleefully putting it on their computer as if they are getting away with something big. What's the headline for that story? It's "Cool! I got Front Row running on my old LC pizza box!", ignoring the myriad and obvious shortcomings of the program. And everybody is all excited for exactly the reason that Apple intended. It's all about buzz.

Am I too cynical about this? Am I giving Apple too much credit for marketing genius? I don't think so. Why haven't they gone after the OSx86 hackers more aggressively? Because they know that if they get the Windows hackerboy crowd buzzed about OS X, it only translates into positive buzz and hype about the product. And those trendsetting early adopters translate later into large market shares for your product. Pick any successful Apple product. Its success will have been due in some part to a guerilla marketing campaign.

It's Marketing 101. And nobody does it better than Apple does.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

picaman wrote:

That said, my sense is that Apple knows exactly what they are doing with Front Row and, to a degree, even encourages it.


Interesting point of view, particularly when you look at Apple's own download page for FrontRow. No-where on that page or in the license agreement does it say that the download is only licensed for use on the iMac G5 with built-in iSight, and that any other use is violation of the license agreement.

Sure, there is a list of system requirements, but those are just guidelines. They aren't refered to in the license agreement either.

Perhaps picaman is right - perhaps it serves Apple if they don't make it too hard to early-adopters to try out FrontRow on unsupported Macs, without actually officially encouraging such behaviour. It seems very plausible to me that the uptake of FrontRow is much higher than it would have been had Apple announced an official beta program.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: OpenSource FrontRow Reply with quote

kuro wrote:
It seems very plausible to me that the uptake of FrontRow is much higher than it would have been had Apple announced an official beta program.


Hmm, perhaps. But given the activity around the OpenSource MediaCentral, iTheater and CenterStage projects I think Apple missed a trick by not opening the source to at least the initial version, and have said so.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't look like Apple legal was successful shutting down McMac. I just hope they decide to bundle it with iLife 06 and give people what they want. I bet they could've boxed Front Row as an individual product and sold it like crazy over the holidays.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyR wrote:
At the end of the day your stealing the software and ...


I'm not so sure you're correct. Apple provides the FR 101 update for free, for anyone to download. There is no mention of licensing particulars in the agreement tying it to a system or OS. So you need some shareware to install it; that's not from Apple.

Perhaps hacking FR 1.0 WAS stealing as it was not available for download when announced. Someone had to copy it from their new iMac G5 in order to repackage it and hack it up.

But when you provide a download from your site and don't specify anywhere that it's not restricted due to licensing, who really cares if you need a 3rd party product, freeware/shareware to make it run on your system. The software is still free.

Bottom line is....this version is not considered stealing.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neb wrote:


I'm not so sure you're correct. Apple provides the FR 101 update for free, for anyone to download. There is no mention of licensing particulars in the agreement tying it to a system or OS. So you need some shareware to install it; that's not from Apple.


I'm sure Apple legal could come up with some legal mumbo-jumbo if they really wanted to. Like the 1.01.1 update requires you to own a fully licensed copy or something. I think Apple pretty much threw in the towel once the 1.0 hack hit the net.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyR wrote:
I'm all for getting FrontRow on Mac Mini's as its the way it should be done, but it still amazed me how many people are so open in where they got and how they go Frontrow running on there machines, even posting screengrabs.

At the end of the day your stealing the software and I really wouldn''t be so open about what you have done. (this isn't directed at anyone inparticular). If you get caught they only have to look through threads on this board and its all the evidence they need.

Just my 2p worth. Speaking from past experience of having a previous collegue busted for bragging about how they had got a hacked copy of MS-Office a couple of years ago.

Just not worth it in my opinion.

Same with people being "I got Mac OSx running on my Intel box!" Er....you stole it you know? Apple should offer a $50 tip-off fee for everyone you tipoff that runs Mac OSx / FrontRow illegally to help crack down on piracy. I could make thousands this way and I think it would be a pretty good deterant from tall this sort of stuff.


so it must also be bad that i'm trying to reverse engineer wmp for osx :-\ damn pos crashes all the time (don't say it's my install.. i'll give you plenty of websites that will crash your system).. so are you going to say my illegal activity is bad even though microsoft isn't releasing an updated plugin? it's whiners like you that give folks like me a bad name (oh, he's hacking, that's illegal and i could feel special for once in my life for saying he's a bad guy)...... oh okay, i'll stop.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guyin916 wrote:

so it must also be bad that i'm trying to reverse engineer wmp for osx :-\ damn pos crashes all the time (don't say it's my install.. i'll give you plenty of websites that will crash your system).. so are you going to say my illegal activity is bad even though microsoft isn't releasing an updated plugin? it's whiners like you that give folks like me a bad name (oh, he's hacking, that's illegal and i could feel special for once in my life for saying he's a bad guy)...... oh okay, i'll stop.

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Sorry you got me totally wrong here. I totally agree with you here and I'm far from a whiner. In my younger days I used to hack and dabble with "borrowed" software all the time but then one of the people I knew got busted for it so that made me stop. Then 7 years later I see a collegue at my last company get busted aswell all because he was bragging about some software he had got and he got a £5000 fine for it. I'm just more careful thats all.

Everyone at times has done something dodgy, weather is installing a copy of XP that they haven't bought, not registering shareware or downloading music from a P2P engine. Everyone has done it at some point, all I meant by this thread was to people, don't be so open about what your doing as from experience of what has happened to people I've known, its just not worth the risk thats all.

Thats all I meant, I wasn't having a whine.
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