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Installing Snow Leopard "Dilemma"

 
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How would YOU setup a "NEW" Mac
Clone ME Baby Keep Everything Good & BAD
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Migrate EVERYTHING so Apple See's Their New mini
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Virgin Snow Leopard with NO SETTINGS or PASSWORDS
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Installing Snow Leopard "Dilemma" Reply with quote

Ok Guru's

I plan on buying a New or Referb
mini soon. Hopefully after Sound
is enabled over the Mini Display Port
.

Do I use it as a Virgin or Clone it, or
use the Migration Assistant?
And WHY?

I've always done
Clean Installs BUT with Snow Leopard
I did an Upgrade Install. It worked
beautifully. I kept All of my Settings
and Passwords. It's been wonderful.

I'm thinking of using the Migration Assistant
and if that turns out to be unacceptable then
I'll Clone my OLD mini to the NEW.
I don't think I can ever be CLEAN again!

So..........what say YOU and Why???????

Thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use a fresh install of any OS. You shouldn't run into driver problems, since you're using a Mac. But I always like to start with nothing so I don't waste space with things I won't use on a given machine.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my windows days I also did a fresh install, and manually set everything up and do all the updates. After that I would then do a backup clone image using Norton Ghost to allow me to quickly get back to that point. I used to restore the ghost image every 6 months to speed up windows and clear out all the clutter. My data was always left on a second drive so it was only the OS and apps I replaced each time.

When I upgraded to Snow Leopard I tried the migration method but I never felt like the system was running 100%. In the end I wiped it and started again and manually reinstalled all the apps I needed. for me it seemed to run much better, but it could have been an app that was working well under Leopard that after upgrading wasn't quite working so well with Snow Leopard. When I did the reload I only reinstalled what I thought were the apps I would use so a lot of stuff never got reloaded. I guess it was one (or more) of those that hadn't played so well first time around.

A month or so ago I was having a crashing problem with the iMac and I again did the fresh install approach even though I had sufficient backups to do it the easy way. There is just something about a fresh start that seems to improve things. I know I have only reinstalled about 50% of the apps I had before had I done a migration I would have brought back all the old clutter I wasn't even using.

It would definitely be a fresh install for me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing Snow Leopard "Dilemma" Reply with quote

billb wrote:
I've always done
Clean Installs BUT with Snow Leopard
I did an Upgrade Install. It worked
beautifully. I kept All of my Settings
and Passwords. It's been wonderful.

Bill, Sorry if I make a derail to your agenda, but my experience and problem seem to deserve a mention here. I did the same upgrade installing SL from L and it worked perfectly ... except until recently I found that my chess.app no longer worked (not even open to play). As described in my another thread (in Gaming forum) , when I tried to open it, it says:"You can't use this version of the application Chess.app with this version of Mac OS X. You have Chess.app 2.4.1"
I reckon that when I "upgrade install" SL, the chess.app was not upgraded accordingly. Can you check if you can open the chess.app and play it? If it does, which version is it? If it doesn't play, I need to know how to use the SL dvd to ONLY install/upgrade the new version of the chess.app? Or any idea of other causes to this problem?

Thank you for help.

Update: OK, I downloaded/installed Pacifist and used it to extract and install the new version of chess from my SL dvd. It's perfectly done.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Installing Snow Leopard "Dilemma" Reply with quote

fiat wrote:
1. Bill, Sorry if I make a derail to your agenda,
but my experience and problem seem to deserve a mention here.

2. Can you check if you can open the chess.app and play it? If it does, which version is it?

3. Or any idea of other causes to this problem?

4. Update: OK, I downloaded/installed Pacifist and used it to extract and install the new version of chess from my SL dvd. It's perfectly done.


1. My agenda...............huh?

2. Chess v2.4.2 opens and plays fine.

3. Not a clue.........sorry.

4. Thats wonderful...........I've never had to use Pacifist.
I had downloaded it in the past but I've never had to use it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: OK, New It Is Reply with quote

OK, it looks like a Brand NEW
Squeaky Clean Snow Leopard is
the way to go.

So, how do I import my "Key Chain"
from the OLD mini to the NEW mini?

That way I don't have to bust a blood
vessel in my neck setting up my
passwords all over again.
(I have something like a hundred).

Like I remember all of them!!!!

When I launch "Keychain"
Under "File"➔"Export Items"
Export Items is grayed out.
When I unlock my Keychain
"Export Items" are still grayed
out.


HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, New It Is Reply with quote

billb wrote:
[b]OK, it looks like a Brand NEW
Squeaky Clean Snow Leopard is
the way to go...

Maybe I am too dumb to get this: if you are to get a "new" mini, it must be latest SL ready and why you want a clean re-install? if to get a "rehurbed" from apple, it would be the same SL-wise. Anyway, I feel in your case, if the old mini is latest configured and set to your total satisfaction, why not just clone it to your new mini?

Sorry, don't have idea about Key chain.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, New It Is Reply with quote

fiat wrote:
billb wrote:
OK, it looks like a Brand NEW
Squeaky Clean Snow Leopard is
the way to go...
Maybe I am too dumb to get this: if the old mini is latest configured and set to your total satisfaction, why not just clone it to your new mini?
Sorry, don't have idea about Key chain.


Yes, thats exactly the direction I was leaning BUT,
its the common knowledge to start a new Mac with
a new squeaky clean system. Thats what I've always
done in the past. HOWEVER, since Snow Leopard was
written to run on only the Intel processor instead of
BOTH Intel AND PPC I find S.L. to be
much more stable. Their isn't a lot of extra code
muckin' up the system.

When you "Repair Permissions" with Tiger or Leopard,
the Log looks like a bad novel. The Log with S.L. only
has two or three Persissions Repairs. Their clearly
isn't a lot of extra code potentially messing up your
OS.

If I can figure out how to import my "Key Chain"
I'll do a Clean install and then import my passwords.
If I can't figure out how to import my passwords then
I'll Clone. Its really nice having the option.
It would be even nicer if I could easily figure out how
to import my Key Chain. Their has to be a way or the
option wouldn't be listed. I'm hoping someone gives
me (us) a How To link.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, New It Is Reply with quote

billb wrote:
OK, If I can figure out how to import my "Key Chain"
I'll do a Clean install and then import my passwords. I'm hoping someone gives
me (us) a How To link.


Check THIS out. Checker outers. Scroll down to the Keychain section.
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