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downtoworthing New Member

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: Best setup suggestion for would-be Mac Mini owner |
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Hi guys, great forum going on here.
Current: Mac Book Pro 5,1 unibody late 2008.
Usage: Mainly mail, ical, aperture & videos.
Am looking to sell off the above and invest in a Mac Mini/iPad setup. But first I'd very much like to know your thoughts in what seems like a downgrade on the surface (no offence intended there) to a Mac Mini. Your advice in aid of my impending purchase is greatly appreciated!
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1. 2.26GHz or 2.53GHz?
2. Intention to get the base model and upgrade RAM & HDD meself. Will warranty be void within warranty period?
3. Could someone point me to basic info on external booting through FW connection? Heard it runs cooler and slightly faster. how does that affect my future data?
4. Possible to output from MM to a HD monitor? What monitors would one recommend?
It'll be nice for anyone to share their insight and current setups to give me a good idea or any idea for that matter on my future mini setup.
Pardon the newbie questions and thanks for taking the time to reply. My schedule has been a bitch hence I don't really have the time to search further.
regards,
downtoworthing _________________ There is no truth, only human opinion. |
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 3012 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hello there!
1) Since the CPU isn't upgradable, you'll get more mileage from the 2.66GHz model.
2) The basic info on external booting would be this:
Install OS on external FW drive.
Go to Startup Disc (or whatever it's called in 10.6) and tell the mini to start up from the external drive.
Restart.
That should do it.
3) By HD monitor, what do you mean? Do you mean a teevee display with a HDMI, DVI, or VGA connection? Or do you mean a computer display with a resolution of at least 1920 by 1080?
The computer display will be much easier, as teevee displays can be difficult to get to work right, if the mini doesn't grasp what the display is from the get go.
Let us know if you have any more questions, we're here for you!
SC _________________ Grumpy old man of computing.
[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8
[Media System] Intel i5 mini - 2.33Ghz 8GB 500GB HDD - 4 x Hitachi 2TB HDD in a qBOX-SF - 10.7.5 (Thanks Phil!)
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downtoworthing New Member

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: Mac Mini |
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Hey Smithcraft! Thanks for the prompt albeit informative reply!
About the external boot, what plus will I stand to gain in terms of performance?
My other question, if i were to say save a file (eg. ps or ms word), will I be saving it to the native drive or to the same FW HDD where I boot from?
If for some really strange reason, I dont have the external boot drive with me, can i just boot my MM like normal as i would a pc?
Yeah I meant HD TV but i think i'll just stick with your recommendation on the LCD monitor
Pardon my silly questions heh. I've never booted from an external drive before. _________________ There is no truth, only human opinion. |
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Smithcraft Veteran Member


Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 3012 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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No problems!
I can't really say what you will gain in terms of performance(or any other factor/metric), by booting from an external.
You can save your files where ever you want. If you just default to you user's Documents folder, then it would be on the external if you booted from the external, and the internal if you booted from the internal. Or somewhere else if you have something else(like a memory stick) set up.
Your mini would boot with out the external if there is an OS still installed on the internal drive. It might take it a bit to figure out where to boot from though.
Don't worry about the questions!
SC _________________ Grumpy old man of computing.
[Desktop] G4 mini - 1.5Ghz 1GB 80GB HDD - Newer miniStack v2 500GB - 10.5.8
[Media System] Intel i5 mini - 2.33Ghz 8GB 500GB HDD - 4 x Hitachi 2TB HDD in a qBOX-SF - 10.7.5 (Thanks Phil!)
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jb Veteran Member


Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 652 Location: A large Island called Vancouver
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Mac Mini |
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| downtoworthing wrote: | Hey Smithcraft! Thanks for the prompt albeit informative reply!
About the external boot, what plus will I stand to gain in terms of performance?
My other question, if i were to say save a file (eg. ps or ms word), will I be saving it to the native drive or to the same FW HDD where I boot from?
If for some really strange reason, I dont have the external boot drive with me, can i just boot my MM like normal as i would a pc?
Yeah I meant HD TV but i think i'll just stick with your recommendation on the LCD monitor
Pardon my silly questions heh. I've never booted from an external drive before. |
By default, everything runs from and will be saved to the drive you Boot from, be it internal or external.
These defaults can be changed, but one must be careful because you can create a lot of pain for yourself if you mess up.
If you keep the internal and your external boot drive in sync, yes you can boot without the external being there.
There are some very good utilities for doing just this thing. _________________ DropBox, free cloud storage for all, check it out Here |
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papercut Junior Member


Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I'd recommend the 2.53 model -- twice the memory, twice the hard drive capacity for $200 (USD). 4GB of RAM should take care of most of your needs and then you don't have to crack the case open and even have questions about the warranty (though I don't think it voids the warranty anyway).
Booting from the FW external drive is simple, and has already been answered.
Monitors -- I've always heard good things about Dell and Samsung. I'm using a Dell 20" that's about six years old and it's clear as a crystal and does HD just fine. This monitor is 1680x1050 so I get black bars top and bottom with HD. Most new monitors are 1920x1080 and correctly dimensioned for HD. |
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philiparcario Veteran Member

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 4567 Location: Howell NJ USA
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Best setup suggestion for would-be Mac Mini owner |
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| downtoworthing wrote: | Hi guys, great forum going on here.
Current: Mac Book Pro 5,1 unibody late 2008.
Usage: Mainly mail, ical, aperture & videos.
Am looking to sell off the above and invest in a Mac Mini/iPad setup. But first I'd very much like to know your thoughts in what seems like a downgrade on the surface (no offence intended there) to a Mac Mini. Your advice in aid of my impending purchase is greatly appreciated!
Qs:
1. 2.26GHz or 2.53GHz?
2. Intention to get the base model and upgrade RAM & HDD meself. Will warranty be void within warranty period?
3. Could someone point me to basic info on external booting through FW connection? Heard it runs cooler and slightly faster. how does that affect my future data?
4. Possible to output from MM to a HD monitor? What monitors would one recommend?
It'll be nice for anyone to share their insight and current setups to give me a good idea or any idea for that matter on my future mini setup.
Pardon the newbie questions and thanks for taking the time to reply. My schedule has been a bitch hence I don't really have the time to search further.
regards,
downtoworthing |
As a follow up to 1) 2.53ghz
2) in USA all your new parts are not under warranty and if anything broke while upgrades were done warranty is void.
3) external booting go to dock go to preference box it is the full of gears click to open look for startup drive a picture of a drive click to open pick the drive ext fw will have name and a fw picture . an external drive can be much quicker even if it is only a fw800 hookup.
4) I would hook the mini up to a 24 inch dell with a dvi connection
3a) here is a very fast external setup
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEPT934AL2C/ 100usd
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-HD103SJ&title=Samsung-SpinPoint-F3-HD103SJ-1TB-SATA2-7200rpm-32MB-Hard-Drive
a pair is need 138usd this is 238 usd a 2.53ghz with 4gb is about 760 usd about 1000 usd total and you have an external that will hold 2tb in a
raid 0 be very fast.
a 2.66ghz mini is about 1000 usd and has only 320gb internal storage along with the same 4gb ram. I had one and down graded to 2.53ghz picked up externals instead. _________________ 2010 Mm 2.4 C2D oem 320gb hdd 8gb ram
2012Mm base 2.5 with 16gb ram diy fusion drive
2012Mm quad with 8gb ram oem 1tb hdd
promise pegasus r6 3x 3tb + 3x 4tb =21tb hdds
lacie little big disk 2x 512gb ssds
synology 2tb disk station |
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