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velocitytrap Member

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JohnnyBoy Veteran Member


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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Oh dude, there's only one way to deal with this...
Fake Steve has been informed.  _________________ Intel Mini 2.0GHz C2D (4GB/120GB/SuperDrive/10.5.8 ), 120GB WD Passport, Logitech ergo k/b
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: |
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It's by Nick Farrell...
As soon as I saw that...that was enough to not bother with reading on.
The guy is a born idiot.
Enough said....
Aqua _________________ Of the four X systems in the world.
Which would you choose?
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JohnnyBoy Veteran Member


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digitalbow New Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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A bit of a waste of time to read, since he does not cite any specific instances. However, you guys may want to be on the lookout for Apple's system hardening guide for Snow Leopard (once it comes out) and certainly refer to the one for Leopard or other similar FreeBSD releases. There are, without a doubt, vulnerabilities built-in to the default configuration which attackers can exploit. _________________ Mac Mini 1.83 C2D; 500GB/4GB, OS 10.6 + Win7 x64
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| digitalbow wrote: | | A bit of a waste of time to read, since he does not cite any specific instances. However, you guys may want to be on the lookout for Apple's system hardening guide for Snow Leopard (once it comes out) and certainly refer to the one for Leopard or other similar FreeBSD releases. There are, without a doubt, vulnerabilities built-in to the default configuration which attackers can exploit. |
Hardening yes...
vulnerabilities built in...no..
Vulnerabilities are never 'built in'; that implies they've been purposefully set in place.
Inadvertent oversights, misjudgments, or simply poor testing of some aspect of the code are the more likely culprits.
As I said earlier, Operating systems are fallible simply because human beings are fallible.
We all make mistakes.
Its lucky for us that Apple makes less mistakes than Windows...& that is the difference.
Cheers
Aqua _________________ Of the four X systems in the world.
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JohnnyBoy Veteran Member


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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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One thing that I can think of, Aqua: It took me a while to be alerted (thanks to the membership of this website) to the danger of using the admin account for the day-to-day running of my Mac. I had simply been using the machine with its default settings unchanged. _________________ Intel Mini 2.0GHz C2D (4GB/120GB/SuperDrive/10.5.8 ), 120GB WD Passport, Logitech ergo k/b
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dungeon92 Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Why does he not mention that Linux has both platforms beat, the users are security nuts for the most part and almost no vulnerabilities that really threaten the core system unless someone is dumb enough to have an account in root at all times. _________________ "You must control your future by taking command of your present, and fixing and learning from your past."
"When history is forgotten people don't realize when it repeats."
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| JohnnyBoy wrote: | | One thing that I can think of, Aqua: It took me a while to be alerted (thanks to the membership of this website) to the danger of using the admin account for the day-to-day running of my Mac. I had simply been using the machine with its default settings unchanged. |
I must remember to take my own advice...
Aqua
Just kidding...  _________________ Of the four X systems in the world.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| dungeon92 wrote: | | Why does he not mention that Linux has both platforms beat, the users are security nuts for the most part and almost no vulnerabilities that really threaten the core system unless someone is dumb enough to have an account in root at all times. |
| dungeon92 wrote: | | Why does he not mention that Linux has both platforms beat, the users are security nuts for the most part and almost no vulnerabilities that really threaten the core system unless someone is dumb enough to have an account in root at all times. |
Or dumb enough to use a version of Linux that Microsoft has gone into partnership with...
Actually, there are Linux viruses out there running around in the wild.
Here is a list. Of course, its a list of the ones that are known....
The ones that you don't know about, are the ones that are still in the wild.
Trojans
Kaiten - Linux.Backdoor.Kaiten trojan horse
Rexob - Linux.Backdoor.Rexob trojan
Viruses
42
Arches
Alaeda - Virus.Linux.Alaeda
Bad Bunny - Perl.Badbunny
Binom - Linux/Binom
Bliss
Brundle
Bukowski
Caveat
Coin
Diesel - Virus.Linux.Diesel.962
Hasher
Kagob a - Virus.Linux.Kagob.a
Kagob b - Virus.Linux.Kagob.b
Lacrimae (aka Crimea)
MetaPHOR (also known as Simile)
Nuxbee - Virus.Linux.Nuxbee.1403
OSF.8759
PiLoT
Podloso - Linux.Podloso (The iPod virus)
Rike - Virus.Linux.Rike.1627
RST - Virus.Linux.RST (known for infecting Korean release of Mozilla Suite 1.7.6 and Thunderbird 1.0.2 in September 2005
Satyr - Virus.Linux.Satyr.a
Staog
Vit - Virus.Linux.Vit.4096
Winter - Virus.Linux.Winter.341
Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf)
Wit virus
ZipWorm - Virus.Linux.ZipWorm
Worms
Adm - Net-Worm.Linux.Adm
Adore
Cheese - Net-Worm.Linux.Cheese
Devnull
Kork
Linux/Lion
Mighty - Net-Worm.Linux.Mighty
Millen - Linux.Millen.Worm
Ramen worm
Slapper
SSH Bruteforce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
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