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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: SATA mini Pci-e from Commell Reply with quote

Here is what you need:
http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/Peripheral/PCI%20Express%20mini%20card/MPX-3132.HTM
in addition, the drivers are available from Silicon Image here:
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/searchresults.aspx?pid=32&cat=3&os=3
the only other thing you will need is a soldering iron or crimp tool to modify the included sata cable...
good luck and let me know i you need help with this mod!

Forgot to mention:
you can actually purchase them here:
http://www.globalamericaninc.com/p1507890/1507890_-_PCI-Express_Mini-Card_Serial_ATA_RAID_Controller/product_info.html
Call Cathy Perault at Global American:
T - 603-886-3900 X205
800-833-8999 X205
F - 603-886-4545
E-mail - cperault@globalamericaninc.com

These guys are a great company and are very attentive even for small or single-piece orders, and no, I don't work for them ;-)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be a solution for people with older mini's, but it's not an option for 2009 mini's.
They don't have a mini-PCIe slot. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone trying this with an older mac mini ie non 2009 model?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Driverless PCIe card for eSATA $59.99 Reply with quote

Will this PCIe Controller Card with two eSATA ports work?
Looks interesting!
6Gb/s!!
Doesn't need drivers!!!
$59.99 US!!!!
Any guinea pigs out their?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Driverless PCIe card for eSATA $59.99 Reply with quote

billb wrote:
Will this PCIe Controller Card with two eSATA ports work?
Looks interesting!


Yeah, just great if you have a Mac Pro machine lying around.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Ribbon Cable? Reply with quote

Could an extension ribbon cable
be used to attach it to a pre-09'mini?
Could that work?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most SSD's (except for really expensive ones) struggle to saturate SATA2.
You'll see quite a few coming out this year that will, but they'll be fairly pricey, and there'll still be heaps of cheaper alternatives that don't.

Also that card is only PCIe 2.0 1x, meaning it's total bandwidth is only 500MB/s or 4Gbps (real world would be less).
So they're ripping people off by claiming they can offer true SATA 6G.

The card suggested by frsp_1 is fine for a Mini w/a true mPCIe slot.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very interesting discussion. I am interested in replacing the wifi board in the 2009 mini. Unfortunitly this seems impossible now that they did away with the mini PCI-e slot and replaced it with a perpriority connector. I also understand that if you could find the pinout for this connector you would still loose blutooth because they now combine blutooth and wifi on the same board.

My reasons for wanting to do this is I would of liked to install a broadcom HD decoder card in my early 2009 mini.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the thought to install this in place of the Airport card on an older Mac Mini (2007 version, for example). Has anybody done this? Certainly gets more SATA ports than just the internal harddrive.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that's the idea....
It doesn't look like earlier posters were successful, but I wouldn't be surprised if others have done it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkgm wrote:
It's not a USB to SATA controller, so no. PCI-E devices can also use a USB interface alongside the PCI bus. If this card does what it appears to do, it is connecting a SATA device to the 1-lane PCI-E bus, which runs at 2Gbps, or 4x faster than USB 2.0, and 5x faster than FW400.


You are correct but the adapter is USB/pcie and not a true PCIE adapter. Mini PCIE slots come in 2 flavors.

1. Interfaces into the USB bus
2. Interfaces into the PCIE bus.

This adapter is ment to interface into a USB bus.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Whats the point? Reply with quote

dannyv45 wrote:
jkgm wrote:
It's not a USB to SATA controller, so no. PCI-E devices can also use a USB interface alongside the PCI bus. If this card does what it appears to do, it is connecting a SATA device to the 1-lane PCI-E bus, which runs at 2Gbps, or 4x faster than USB 2.0, and 5x faster than FW400.


You are correct but the adapter is USB/pcie and not a true PCIE adapter. Mini PCIE slots come in 2 flavors.

1. Interfaces into the USB bus
2. Interfaces into the PCIE bus.

This adapter is ment to interface into a USB bus.


So, in other words, This is a PCIe controller that will enable
you to attach two SATA Discs that will run at USB speeds or
less.
If I have that right........whats the point?
It would seem that using a conventional USB or FireWire
HD enclosure setup, just makes more sense.

Less "VooDoo" involved.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dannyv45 responded to something jkgm posted yonks ago.
What frsp_1 posted more recently is fine for an non 09' mini.

If you're trying to workout how to install a controller on the 09', I think you're in for a world of pain.
But hey, whatever pushes your buttons! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jalyst wrote:
dannyv45 responded to something jkgm posted yonks ago.
What frsp_1 posted more recently is fine for an non 09' mini.

If you're trying to workout how to install a controller on the 09', I think you're in for a world of pain.
But hey, whatever pushes your buttons! Laughing


My usage would be for a broadcom decoder card. This I already know is not possible with a 09' mini. It is possible with a pre nvidia mini. What the OP wants to do is run an sata drive from the mini PCIe which is do-able but as this is only a USB type adapter they will only get USB speed. SO I must say whats the point just install an external USB drive and be done with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but as this is only a USB type adapter

Yes this is gear the OP was referring too....
But are you not aware someone has since linked to a device that is not a USB type adapter?

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