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DonCarlos Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: Questions about Windows 7 on XP Partition |
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I am not sure if anyone has addressed this or not, but when I get a copy of Windows 7, I would like to run it instead of XP (after I make a copy of my XP and then remove it).
My present bootcamp partion has 40 gb allocated to NTSF and the rest to mac HFS+.
1) Can I simply install Windows 7 over the partition I already have for XP?
2) Or do I have to do the bootcamp install thing like I did with XP.
3) Or could I just fire the system up in windows xp and do the install from there on the windows c drive?
Your thoughts. Thanks _________________ '08 MacMini C2D/2.0/RAM4GB
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MacDSmith2 Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I would assume you could just install Windows 7 from the Windows side like any other Windows Update on a PC. The only question I would have is whether or not 40 GB is enough disk space for an in-place update. |
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DonCarlos Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The only question I would have is whether or not 40 GB is enough disk space for an in-place update | .
Hmm.... good point. Windows 7 says that it takes a minimum of 16 GB. I will be using the partitioned external, for storage. Not quite ready to upgrade the HD to a larger and faster drive (presently my hd is a 2008, 120 gb, with 80 going to the mac and 40 going to the windows). But I can always find an excuse to get a bigger internal.
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Be careful with Windows 7.
It has a nasty habit of changing drive letters over from the ones previously allocated.
So keep an eye on where you install it, otherwise, you could end up wiping XP out in the process.
I find it better to go by volume/partition size than drive letters.
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MacDSmith2 Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| From everything I've read, you can't install Windows 7 on top of an XP installation via an upgrade. YOu have to do a clean install and replace all your apps, settings, drivers and so forth. Can anybody confirm this? I would think this would greatly discourage people from upgrading from XP. |
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Your right :
You can't go from XP to Windows 7 using an "update" version of W7.
This can only be done via having Vista installed.
However, as I said, W-7 will live happily with XP, so long as it is on its own partition. But like I also said, keep an eye on those partition size figures.
To create a separate partition on XP (on the fly) so to speak, there is a free software company called Easus, that has a program called Partition-Tool
Not exactly sure, but Windows 7 needs about 10GB to 20Gb to run happily with space.
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DonCarlos Member


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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the info Aqua.
I am bumping this to see if anyone has tried this; create a partition while in Windows XP and installing Windows 7 on that partiiton. I will be using a an Upgrade version, so any suggestions is appreciated.
From what I read there are a variety of conflicting opinions on how to install W7, but I have yet to read if you could just open windows XP and make a partition and install Windows 7.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 am Post subject: |
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From what I read there are a variety of conflicting opinions on how to install W7, but I have yet to read if you could just open windows XP and make a partition and install Windows 7.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Don,
Perhaps I haven't been clear.
It is easy to install W7 alongside of XP.
But to do it, you need a full version of W7, not an upgrade disk.
All you need to do is run Easus partitioning tool first to create the needed space.
Then you can go ahead with the install.
Make sure you've noted ahead of time, the size of each of the partitions.
Then you can install W7 to the newly created partition, without fear that your overwriting your XP partition.
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cheef Senior Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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For the record, an upgrade disk will provide a full, clean installation of W7 without the need to upgrade.
However, if you purchased W7 as an upgrade version, your serial key won't allow you to actviate this full, clean install as it's aligned to upgrade only. _________________ iPhone 4 16GB
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DonCarlos Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Okay I understand guys. Thanks, much appreciated. Will post how it goes. _________________ '08 MacMini C2D/2.0/RAM4GB
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Or you can alter your XP to make it look & run like Windows 7.
Underneath the hood, its really not that different.
>>> Turn XP into W7 without a Customization'Pack <<<
Heck... I might try it myself, just for fun...
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DonCarlos Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hey......That's pretty cool. I'll have to try that regardless. Thanks  _________________ '08 MacMini C2D/2.0/RAM4GB
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Aquafire Veteran Member


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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Your welcome Don.
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