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picaman Veteran Member


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1444 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: Enabling Quartz 2D Extreme |
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Very interesting post on the apple.com support site.
From the post:
"Most users read Apple's Tiger Promotional material and get excited about Quartz 2D Extreme. Few are the number of users who dig down in their OS only to be greatly disappointed to discover Apple has Quartz 2D Extreme is disabled when Tiger is installed by default. If you don't want to wait for Apple to throw the switch in a future software update, keep reading."
Has anyone done this? Or is anyone willing to try it and report back? I'd do it but I'm the guy who waits a few days to install software updates, and buys rev. B hardware.
Jamie |
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devo Veteran Member


Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 5290 Location: Dunwoody, GA
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! I haven't heard anything about this. Quartz 2D Extreme isn't listed in my System Profiler.  |
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ba747heavy Member

Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 94
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to try, but I can't seem to get past the first part where I create the plist. I run the program but I don't get the plist. Oh well.
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Susurrus Veteran Member


Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Did it. Substantial speedup, I think. Of course, it could just be the Placebo effect going on. Dashboard seems smoother along with MenuMeters updating. Switching folders in Finder seems like it's a lot quicker as long as the hard drive is spun up.
I would recommend doing this. I haven't had a chance to test this with D2x, as I have that running with software acceleration. That should now be partially hardware accelerated through Quartz 2D Extreme as most of the effects are 2D. I'll test it and post back here.
Some more observations:
Still haven't played D2x, but I will eventually.
Opening Sysprefs is a lot faster in that it is populated with icons immediately instead of gradually as before. Using the Scale effect for minimizing windows is a lot smoother now. Dashboard is also crazy fast. _________________ Computer Engineer
Junior, Brown University
15" NC8430 HP Laptop
1.42Ghz PPC Mac Mini, 1Gb RAM, 1st Gen
40GB G4 iPod
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caulktel Senior Member


Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 365 Location: Eagle Point OR USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I just finished doing it and would have to agree that opening and closing windows seems faster. I have to wonder though, why Apple did not turn this on by default, maybe it causes some other problem they haven't fixed yet? |
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picaman Veteran Member


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1444 Location: NYC
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: Problems |
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I subsequently read that some people had problems with window redraws. Have you noticed this problem at all?
Jamie |
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Leander Member

Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 237
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: |
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what is quartz 2d?
it sounds like a graphics card or something. |
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PeteC New Member

Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Is the "com.apple.windowserver.plist" file generated by the Quartz Debug app the same for every Mini? If it is, could someone send me a copy to try out? I don't I have the dev tools installed so can't easily create it myself.
Cheers,
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Susurrus Veteran Member


Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| PeteC wrote: | Is the "com.apple.windowserver.plist" file generated by the Quartz Debug app the same for every Mini? If it is, could someone send me a copy to try out? I don't I have the dev tools installed so can't easily create it myself.
Cheers,
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I just wouldn't do this because messing with stuff like that can be dangerous. I would just recommend installing the dev tools as I know I've needed them a lot when I've been playing around on my Mini. Of course, I'm not the average user, but this is exactly one of those cases I'm talking about. _________________ Computer Engineer
Junior, Brown University
15" NC8430 HP Laptop
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g5g5 Veteran Member


Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 2725 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't sound like a good idea. Check this line out from the 10.4.3 update. It's on the bottom of the page.
"Disables Quartz 2D Extreme—Quartz 2D Extreme is not a supported feature in Tiger, and re-enabling it may lead to video redraw issues or kernel panics."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301984 _________________ 1.25GHz Mac Mini / 1.8GHz iMac G5 / 2.0GHz C2D Mac mini (2009)
4GB iPod mini / 2G iPod shuffle / 16GB iPhone 3G
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caulktel Senior Member


Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 365 Location: Eagle Point OR USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Mine still shows supported after the update. |
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picaman Veteran Member


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1444 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| g5g5 wrote: | Doesn't sound like a good idea. Check this line out from the 10.4.3 update. It's on the bottom of the page.
"Disables Quartz 2D Extreme—Quartz 2D Extreme is not a supported feature in Tiger, and re-enabling it may lead to video redraw issues or kernel panics."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301984 |
Here's a discussion where users report kernel panics when enabling Quartz 2D Extreme under 10.4.3, necessitating reinstallation of the system software or using fsck to restore functionality.
I never tried this trick under 10.4.2 and after reading this I'm definitely not going to under 10.4.3!
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g5g5 Veteran Member


Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 2725 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| picaman wrote: |
I never tried this trick under 10.4.2 and after reading this I'm definitely not going to under 10.4.3!
Jamie |
Sounds like a smart idea.
| caulktel wrote: | | Mine still shows supported after the update. |
Did you enable it before the 10.4.3 update using the information from above or was it always there? _________________ 1.25GHz Mac Mini / 1.8GHz iMac G5 / 2.0GHz C2D Mac mini (2009)
4GB iPod mini / 2G iPod shuffle / 16GB iPhone 3G
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