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Enabling Quartz 2D Extreme

 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Enabling Quartz 2D Extreme Reply with quote

Very interesting post on the apple.com support site.

From the post:

"Most users read Apple's Tiger Promotional material and get excited about Quartz 2D Extreme. Few are the number of users who dig down in their OS only to be greatly disappointed to discover Apple has Quartz 2D Extreme is disabled when Tiger is installed by default. If you don't want to wait for Apple to throw the switch in a future software update, keep reading."

Has anyone done this? Or is anyone willing to try it and report back? I'd do it but I'm the guy who waits a few days to install software updates, and buys rev. B hardware.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I haven't heard anything about this. Quartz 2D Extreme isn't listed in my System Profiler. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to try, but I can't seem to get past the first part where I create the plist. I run the program but I don't get the plist. Oh well.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it. Substantial speedup, I think. Of course, it could just be the Placebo effect going on. Dashboard seems smoother along with MenuMeters updating. Switching folders in Finder seems like it's a lot quicker as long as the hard drive is spun up.

I would recommend doing this. I haven't had a chance to test this with D2x, as I have that running with software acceleration. That should now be partially hardware accelerated through Quartz 2D Extreme as most of the effects are 2D. I'll test it and post back here.

Some more observations:

Still haven't played D2x, but I will eventually.

Opening Sysprefs is a lot faster in that it is populated with icons immediately instead of gradually as before. Using the Scale effect for minimizing windows is a lot smoother now. Dashboard is also crazy fast.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I just finished doing it and would have to agree that opening and closing windows seems faster. I have to wonder though, why Apple did not turn this on by default, maybe it causes some other problem they haven't fixed yet?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Problems Reply with quote

I subsequently read that some people had problems with window redraws. Have you noticed this problem at all?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is quartz 2d?

it sounds like a graphics card or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the "com.apple.windowserver.plist" file generated by the Quartz Debug app the same for every Mini? If it is, could someone send me a copy to try out? I don't I have the dev tools installed so can't easily create it myself.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteC wrote:
Is the "com.apple.windowserver.plist" file generated by the Quartz Debug app the same for every Mini? If it is, could someone send me a copy to try out? I don't I have the dev tools installed so can't easily create it myself.

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I just wouldn't do this because messing with stuff like that can be dangerous. I would just recommend installing the dev tools as I know I've needed them a lot when I've been playing around on my Mini. Of course, I'm not the average user, but this is exactly one of those cases I'm talking about.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't sound like a good idea. Check this line out from the 10.4.3 update. It's on the bottom of the page.

"Disables Quartz 2D Extreme—Quartz 2D Extreme is not a supported feature in Tiger, and re-enabling it may lead to video redraw issues or kernel panics."

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301984
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine still shows supported after the update.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

g5g5 wrote:
Doesn't sound like a good idea. Check this line out from the 10.4.3 update. It's on the bottom of the page.

"Disables Quartz 2D Extreme—Quartz 2D Extreme is not a supported feature in Tiger, and re-enabling it may lead to video redraw issues or kernel panics."

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301984


Here's a discussion where users report kernel panics when enabling Quartz 2D Extreme under 10.4.3, necessitating reinstallation of the system software or using fsck to restore functionality.

I never tried this trick under 10.4.2 and after reading this I'm definitely not going to under 10.4.3!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

picaman wrote:


I never tried this trick under 10.4.2 and after reading this I'm definitely not going to under 10.4.3!

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Sounds like a smart idea.

caulktel wrote:
Mine still shows supported after the update.


Did you enable it before the 10.4.3 update using the information from above or was it always there?
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