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Pystar releases $599 Quad Core

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Pystar releases $599 Quad Core Reply with quote

In the last few days, Pystar have started advertising a new computer model.

Their newly dubbed "Open3OSX" is a Quad Core that will sell for $599. (Headless)

http://store.psystar.com/featured/open3-osx.html

In terms of processing power, it approximates the functionality of a somewhat stripped down Mac Pro, but in a case the size of a (SFF?) or Mini Tower Dell Inspiron or Vostro.

So : for $599 you get the following :

. 2.8 GHz Core2Duo E7400

. 2GB DDR2 800

. 500GB 7,200RPM SATA

. 20x DVD±RW DL

. GeForce 8400GS 256MB (single DVI)

All components can be upgraded at reasonable prices.


Downside is of one of legality.

The other downside (to some) being, the Leopard OS is Pre-installed.

However purchasers do get a reinstallation Leopard disk. Also if you want to increase the size of the drive later, or add an extra one, it has to be done by Pystar (inhouse), who then ship it out to you. Ouch....Shocked

However, the upside is of course ... price...

And when compared to a Mac Pro : who can argue with that sort of cost saving....Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tempting.

My main concern would be that of OS upgrading. By the sounds of it, it wouldn't be overly easy to install Snow Leopard as and when it's released.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The case actually looks decent on this one; I wonder how noisy it would be? Psystar is getting pretty bold now. I guess they figure that since they're already in court with Apple over the OSX issue, they may as well go for broke and sell OSX pre-installed.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. The OpenPro is a lot of bang for the buck. Same with the Open (3)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Pystar releases $599 Quad Core Reply with quote

Aquafire wrote:
However purchasers do get a reinstallation Leopard disk. Also if you want to increase the size of the drive later, or add an extra one, it has to be done by Pystar (inhouse), who then ship it out to you. Ouch....Shocked

So here's another Psystar machine that runs a "special" version of Leopard, whose "Software Update" app connects to Psystar's website and whose HDDs have to be upgraded by Psystar....

Are these guys serious?

Has anybody told Psystar that there are two ways to install a retail copy of Leopard onto a non-Apple machine (EFI-x chip and Boot-132 bootloader)? ...Which kind of makes all of Psystar's awkward, non-standard, special-version-of-Leopard tomfoolery seems like a bunch of un-necessary crap. Hell, I'd have fewer update headaches if I put Leopard on a Dell netbook.

On the day that some very smart manufacturer comes out with a PC or mobo that just happens Wink to be able to run OS X's installer program without so much as a grumble, Psystar might as well start manufacturing steam-powered cars.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Pystar releases $599 Quad Core Reply with quote

JohnnyBoy wrote:
Psystar might as well start manufacturing steam-powered cars.


Or Steampunked Macs...Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, this is bugging me. I'm just going to have another little rant here....

The Psystar business model was based upon the unhappiness that some people had with Apple's headless offerings. The Mac Pro was too expensive, the iMac was too glued to a monitor and the Mini was too underpowered. People said that the GPU on the Mini wasn't good enough, the combo drives weren't good enough, 2/3GB of memory wasn't good enough, and "g" wireless networking wasn't good enough.

Well guess what? The new Minis all have 2GHz CPUs, nVidia GPUs, Superdrives, "n" wireless and can take 4GB of memory. They can even drive two screens.

So who's going to buy a Psystar now?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyBoy wrote:

So who's going to buy a Psystar now?


JB,

There are a lot of people who have been PC users all their lives. For them the thought of chucking in the familiar PC model of doing things is too much to contemplate, let alone ... act on.

Nevetheless such PC users don't live in a bubble. While they may have been in a thrall for years with XP, they have also grown up and grown a little longer in the tooth. Their experiences with Vista have left them flat, so they retreat to XP. At the same time, they read stuff on the net about Macs etc & they begin to cast furtive glances over Macs that some of their friends are using.

They still publicly scoff whenever one of their PC friends brings up the topic of Macs; but at the same time, they can't help but to secretly wonder and dream what it would be like to own a Mac.

In their minds, the admission that maybe, just maybe, a Mac is a better machine, with a superior 21st century Operating system, is just that little bit too hard to admit.

So for them, the Pystar looks tempting, because it offers a familiar sort of PC looking machine, with a taste of Mac that won't leave them too far out of pocket. Pystar knows this, and that is why the prices are what they are. In terms of market placement, Pystar is directly aiming at those PC users who hear stories of the cost of Macs, and speak of not wanting to pay what they dub an "Apple Tax" for having an Apple logo on their machines; yet at the same time, would be happy to 'dip their toes' into the OS X Mac world, without the perceived expense.

These then are the people who Pystar is aiming at. The type of PC users, who would fork out for a prebuilt machine like a Dell or HP etc.

That also explains why Pystar has gone to some trouble to reassure such potential customers that yes, they can also run XP or Vista etc on these machines...just in case their tentative exploration of OS X is too bewildering and unfamiliar.

For them, the Pystar would be quite tempting.

And yes, even though I cannot be absolutely sure of such things, in my mind at least, such a group of PC users would fit the sort of profile that Pystar would (or at least should) be aiming their products at.


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