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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Apple Intros New AirPort Express with 802.11n |
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Apple Intros New AirPort Express with 802.11n
Monday, March 17, 2008
Posted by: Glenn
Apple today updated its AirPort Express mobile base station with 802.11n to deliver up to five times the performance and twice the range of the previous model. According to the company, the AirPort Express is the world's smallest 802.11n-based mobile base station. It can be plugged directly into the wall for wireless Internet connectivity and USB printing at home or easily brought on the road for wireless freedom wherever there is an Internet connection. AirPort Express also features AirTunes, which works seamlessly with iTunes to give users a simple and inexpensive way to wirelessly stream iTunes music from a PC or Mac to any room in the house.
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JohnnyBoy Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it looks like this is our weekly product announcement...  _________________ Intel Mini 2.0GHz C2D (4GB/120GB/SuperDrive/10.5.8 ), 120GB WD Passport, Logitech ergo k/b
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Zuma Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think there are more people are waiting for Apple to give the Mac mini some 802.11n love.  |
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Pleiades Veteran Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Strange that it wasn't a Tuesday though...
From what I can tell, the only difference is the addition of 802.11n. Every other specification looks the same. I was really hoping for AirDisk support. _________________ MacBook Pro 1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, Dell 802.11n card, 1.4TB external
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tourist New Member

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| Anyone know if this hardware update will fix the issues of Airtunes not working with Frontrow under Leopard? |
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bsnoel Senior Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Here we go again. 802.11n with a 10/100 ethernet bottleneck I suppose most people won't use this as their primary access point, but it would have been nice to something that could support the full 802.11n bandwidth. _________________ Mac Pro Quad 2.66GHz, PowerMac G5 2.3 GHz, iMac Core Duo 17", MacBook Pro 2GHz, MacBook Pro 2.2GHz, Mac mini Core 2 Duo 1.83GHz. Multi-K9 Security System. No false alarms, just lots of sharp teeth.
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Pleiades Veteran Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| bsnoel wrote: | Here we go again. 802.11n with a 10/100 ethernet bottleneck I suppose most people won't use this as their primary access point, but it would have been nice to something that could support the full 802.11n bandwidth. |
While I do think it would have been nice to have gigabit on this device, I think the 10/100 option isn't that big of a bottleneck. From my experience, Airport Expresses tend to be used primarily for a sole router, connecting to someone's cable or DSL modem or as an AirTunes or USB printer sharing station, connected to a wired or wireless network. In these situations, hardly anyone would be affected by the device being limited to 100mbit on the ethernet port.
Less frequently they are used as an access point on an already wired network, or as a wireless/wired bridge for a machine without wireless. It certainly happens, but I think they're by far the minority. These types of usages would certainly benefit from gigabit, but I just don't see them as a major player in sales.
However, this is just my opinion, garnered through my experience in Apple-centric retail and also the people I come into contact with professionally and personally. _________________ MacBook Pro 1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, Dell 802.11n card, 1.4TB external
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Yvan256 Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ClunkClunk wrote: | Strange that it wasn't a Tuesday though...
From what I can tell, the only difference is the addition of 802.11n. Every other specification looks the same. I was really hoping for AirDisk support. |
Not only are we only monday, but it's not even showing up on Apple's front page. I thought that at least it would have one of the lower box, but I guess a simple 802.11n upgrade isn't worth mentioning. _________________ Mac mini 2010 (Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz/8 GiB)
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Sold...well I'll pick one up at the end of summer any way. _________________ MacBook 1.83Ghz C2D, 2GB Ram, 160GB 7200rpm HDD, OS X 10.6.5
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pkropp New Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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So, if "n" can be done in an Airport Express, why not in a Mini? _________________ --
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Futa_Mill Veteran Member


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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Just wondering if I were to get an airport extreme or maybe a time capsule and an airport express. Is it possible to have 2 networks i would be connecting the express to the extreme with lan cable. I need to do this cause I have a powerbook g3 kanga that I like to have online but i need to have wep for that. I am almost certain that this would work but am not sure how the apple routers are, I will probably pick both off of ebay used or maybe refurbs in the summer when i have money of course. _________________
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bsnoel Senior Member


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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ClunkClunk wrote: | | bsnoel wrote: | Here we go again. 802.11n with a 10/100 ethernet bottleneck I suppose most people won't use this as their primary access point, but it would have been nice to something that could support the full 802.11n bandwidth. |
While I do think it would have been nice to have gigabit on this device, I think the 10/100 option isn't that big of a bottleneck. From my experience, Airport Expresses tend to be used primarily for a sole router, connecting to someone's cable or DSL modem or as an AirTunes or USB printer sharing station, connected to a wired or wireless network. In these situations, hardly anyone would be affected by the device being limited to 100mbit on the ethernet port.
Less frequently they are used as an access point on an already wired network, or as a wireless/wired bridge for a machine without wireless. It certainly happens, but I think they're by far the minority. These types of usages would certainly benefit from gigabit, but I just don't see them as a major player in sales.
However, this is just my opinion, garnered through my experience in Apple-centric retail and also the people I come into contact with professionally and personally. |
That's pretty much what I said "I suppose most people won't use this as their primary access point". However, 802.11n operating in Wide Mode in the 5GHz spectrum runs at 300-Mbps. This speed may increase when the final version is ratified. That's 3X faster than the provided 100-Mbps ethernet port. The Gig-E chipsets these days are commodity items and would likely not have cost that much more to implement. The reason that I keep my Airport around is to use as a travel router. They work great with 5 or 6 clients. _________________ Mac Pro Quad 2.66GHz, PowerMac G5 2.3 GHz, iMac Core Duo 17", MacBook Pro 2GHz, MacBook Pro 2.2GHz, Mac mini Core 2 Duo 1.83GHz. Multi-K9 Security System. No false alarms, just lots of sharp teeth.
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Pleiades Veteran Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| bsnoel wrote: | | That's 3X faster than the provided 100-Mbps ethernet port. The Gig-E chipsets these days are commodity items and would likely not have cost that much more to implement. |
Even if people used this as their primary access point, 100mbps still would not be a bottleneck as the vast majority of the world's internet connections are far below 100mbps. While there certainly are many places with 100mbit+ connections, particularly in business environments, most use higher end routing devices suited for more users or higher traffic environments.
However, I do agree on the cost factor. GigE chipsets are dirt cheap and it wouldn't be much to implement it. I think Apple uses the 10/100 as a bit of a means to artificially add value to the Airport Extreme units, just like the 10 wireless user maximum limit. _________________ MacBook Pro 1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, Dell 802.11n card, 1.4TB external
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