installing X11 in Tiger

[twalker294]

OK, I got my mini today. It has OSX 10.4.2 on it. I need to install X11 so I can run Gimp. I have found that it is on the install disc but when I put the disc in, select "install" then restart, it comes up telling me that it is going to install OSX either in a separate directory or redo the existing installation. I need to know how to install additional components of the OS that weren't installed initially without being destructive to the exising OS.

Thanks
Todd
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Todd Walker
Mac convert as of 8/3/05
1.42Ghz mini, 1 gig RAM, 250 gig ministack, superdrive

[Susurrus]

Okay, here's what I did. I don't really need X11, but I figured I'd install it to help you out and also because I wanted to play with some apps that need it. The ones that need a bunch of extra stuff are normally the coolest.

First, I read that Tiger automagically installs X11 when it's installed, but I just checked Apple's page, and they don't say that, and it wasn't the case for me.

First, if you have Tiger, just Spotlight X11.
If you don't have Tiger: You'll need to enable the viewing of all files
In Terminal:
# defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
# killall Finder
Find the package installer called X11User.pkg
If you had to use the finder it should be on the CD under System->Installation->Packages->X11User.pkg
If you had to show all finders to get here, you can disable it by typing these commands into Terminal
# defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAll Files FALSE
# killall Finder
Install this
You're done
X11 is installed to Applications->Utilities

Comes with 3 apps: xterm, xman, and xlogo

Edited: Added instructions for Panther. If you wish to run Panther on 10.2 or below, you need to manually install Xfree86 and XDarwin. Information can be found at the XonX project at SourceForge.
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40GB G4 iPod
2GB Black iPod Nano

[twalker294]

Well I tried that and it didn't work. It tells me:

"You cannot install X11 on this volume. Newer Software already exists on your computer."

The only other hit that spotlight finds is x11sdk.pkg. Any other suggestions?
Apparently it isn't already installed because when I try to install Gimp it tells me that X11 isn't running. Is it possible that it is installed but just inactive? Like a service in Windows that isn't started? Excuse the noob question...

Thanks
Todd
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Todd Walker
Mac convert as of 8/3/05
1.42Ghz mini, 1 gig RAM, 250 gig ministack, superdrive

[Susurrus]

So X11 isn't under your Applications folder then and you installed using X11User.pkg?
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Computer Engineer
Junior, Brown University
15" NC8430 HP Laptop
1.42Ghz PPC Mac Mini, 1Gb RAM, 1st Gen
40GB G4 iPod
2GB Black iPod Nano

[homerjatmoes]

[twalker294]

That did it! Thanks a bunch

Todd
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Todd Walker
Mac convert as of 8/3/05
1.42Ghz mini, 1 gig RAM, 250 gig ministack, superdrive

[Toastman]

ok i think i reloaded the OS X disk that came with the mini. The mini comes with 10.4.2, but the disk is 10.3.7 . Did i ruin this for myself? i think i've reverted to 10.3.7 and no longer have 10.4.2 on my system! can i got back to what it was?! im so dumb oh my gosh..

please help me, i had tiger n my system and i guess its not there! can i like system restore or soemthing?? hellllp!!